SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: A simple asterisk next to all of them would suffice and be awesome. They only thing that will make them change is to strip away Victories IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, arcane said: I'm almost positive when Tomlin tried to make a big deal out of this, it was shown that the Pats, nor any other home NFL team, have anything to do with the headsets, it's the NFL itself And you would be wrong. https://www.denverpost.com/2015/09/11/nfl-clarifies-headset-rules-after-patriots-steelers-issues/ The NFL provides the headsets. The home team is responsible for them working and power and that kind of stuff 2 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: They only thing that will make them change is to strip away Victories IMO Maybe. I'd almost want an asterisk next to all six of them rather than them keeping three and losing three. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, arcane said: I'm almost positive when Tomlin tried to make a big deal out of this, it was shown that the Pats, nor any other home NFL team, have anything to do with the headsets, it's the NFL itself Wrong. **excerpt** Bose sends 50 headsets to every stadium and home teams are supposed to provide equipment for visiting teams, as the league's gameday manual states that home teams are aware for installing and maintaining these systems. Full article: https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/9/11/9309529/steelers-patriots-headsets-mike-tomlin-bill-belichick-headsetgate-deflategate-spygate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: And you would be wrong. https://www.denverpost.com/2015/09/11/nfl-clarifies-headset-rules-after-patriots-steelers-issues/ The NFL provides the headsets. The home team is responsible for them working and power and that kind of stuff Damning evidence of cheating there /sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: And you would be wrong. https://www.denverpost.com/2015/09/11/nfl-clarifies-headset-rules-after-patriots-steelers-issues/ The NFL provides the headsets. The home team is responsible for them working and power and that kind of stuff mans exactly why WEEI bleeds into visitor sets. And also why Brady’s set has reported to stay open past the cut off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 34 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said: I have absolutely no doubt that there are hundreds of ways the Patriots have been cheating over the years. If you look at other sports dynasties over the years and the level of domination they've had in their sports league and compare them with the Patriots dynasty, the Patriots are astronomically higher than everyone else, it's not even close. There's no way for any team to be as successful as they have been without cheating. I have to finish reading the book on Spygate. The author mentioned how Doug Flutie accidentally picked up Brady's helmet and heard and alternate frequency which was always on (supposed to shut off at a certain time before the play starts (I think 15 seconds)). The last part is one of the reasons why I can't stand Brady. If true - imagine the advantage of being talked through how to play the position of QB live on the field - being fed correct info (gathered through other cheating) on what the defense is going to do live while you are playing. Week after week. The advantage in learning how to play the position is unprecedented in sport. Even if the helmet receiver shenanigans stopped after some period (no guarantee) - the learning period when it was on would give you an astronomical advantage over other players who need to learn the position over time. Then factor in the same offensive system and coaching forever, any/all other advantages from systematic cheating by the org (incl miraculous reclamation projects likely tied to PEDs) discounts on FAs going just to get a ring, advantageous game altering officiating year after year, etc etc. His whole career is an absolute farce. With those advantages, how many other just decent QBs would have had the same success - tens, hundreds? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, stevewin said: The last part is one of the reasons why I can't stand Brady. If true - imagine the advantage of being talked through how to play the position of QB live on the field - being fed correct info (gathered through other cheating) on what the defense is going to do live while you are playing. Week after week. The advantage in learning how to play the position is unprecedented in sport. Even if the helmet receiver shenanigans stopped after some period (no guarantee) - the learning period when it was on would give you an astronomical advantage over other players who need to learn the position over time. Then factor in the same offensive system and coaching forever, any/all other advantages from systematic cheating by the org (incl miraculous reclamation projects likely tied to PEDs) discounts on FAs going just to get a ring, advantageous game altering officiating year after year, etc etc. His whole career is an absolute farce. With those advantages, how many other just decent QBs would have had the same success - tens, hundreds? I think you could replace Trent Edwards with Brady. Brady woulda been outta the league after a few seasons, and Trent Edwards would be a 6 time Superbowl champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Rc2catch said: The tape is going to come out probably. If the league is soft about punishment the bengals are going to release it. I don’t know how severe the punishment is going to be but I think it depends. If there’s 8 minutes of bengal coaches and assistants it’ll be a wicked penalty. If it’s stupid non important stuff expect a little fine and maybe a mid round pick. Well said. I completely agree with you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: mans exactly why WEEI bleeds into visitor sets. And also why Brady’s set has reported to stay open past the cut off Yup and yup. It's almost cliche how often they screw with it, and almost always in the fourth quarter of close games. Quite a coinkidink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 How bad a look is it right now w/all those 'NFL 100' commercials playing and the ONLY current HC they have featured is Belichick? LMAO NFL get your ***** together immediately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Maybe. I'd almost want an asterisk next to all six of them rather than them keeping three and losing three. Oh and smother them with a corrosive material so the trophies are permanently tarnished Edited December 10, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, peterpan said: I think you could replace Trent Edwards with Brady. Brady woulda been outta the league after a few seasons, and Trent Edwards would be a 6 time Superbowl champ. Delusion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 SpyGate 1 HGH Football Deflation more HGH Salary Cap Circumvention More HGH More Filming Head Set issues Alternate Frequencies for Brady searching Hotels. tapped visitor lockerroom that is the run down of the “Patriot Way” you can BET the Surfaces on the sidelines are comprised as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just now, GoBills808 said: How bad a look is it right now w/all those 'NFL 100' commercials playing and the ONLY current HC they have featured is Belichick? LMAO NFL get your ***** together immediately I wonder how many of the NFL100 Greatest Cheats the Patriots will win. Over 79? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: SpyGate 1 HGH Football Deflation more HGH Salary Cap Circumvention More HGH More Filming Head Set issues Alternate Frequencies for Brady searching Hotels. tapped visitor lockerroom that is the run down of the “Patriot Way” you can BET the Surfaces on the sidelines are comprised as well. Don't forget employment of a convicted serial killer and ownership-sponsored sex trafficking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: SpyGate 1 HGH Football Deflation more HGH Salary Cap Circumvention More HGH More Filming Head Set issues Alternate Frequencies for Brady searching Hotels. tapped visitor lockerroom that is the run down of the “Patriot Way” you can BET the Surfaces on the sidelines are comprised as well. don’t forget sexual favors at seedy strip malls in Florida. Oh, and murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Bill Belichick should be banned for life. He is a continuous cheat and the NFL needs to throw the book at their most celebrated head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: SpyGate 1 HGH Football Deflation more HGH Salary Cap Circumvention More HGH More Filming Head Set issues Alternate Frequencies for Brady searching Hotels. tapped visitor lockerroom that is the run down of the “Patriot Way” you can BET the Surfaces on the sidelines are comprised as well. * Antonio Brown “wink wink” (get cut by Raiders and we’ll take you) * Patrick Chung - indicted on felony drug charges...still playing. #patriotway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yobogoya! Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, wppete said: If these accusations are true, which they look like they are and NE has a long history of cheating and getting caught, this is the perfect situation for the Bengals to be defiant of the NFL. Especial if they try and bury the story. I hope you're right. But I wouldn't underestimate the solidarity of the NFL machine. I don't know if Mike Brown is the kind of owner who will be mad enough at this incident to go against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, peterpan said: I think you could replace Trent Edwards with Brady. Brady woulda been outta the league after a few seasons, and Trent Edwards would be a 6 time Superbowl champ. I was actually going to mention Edwards by name ? I truly have always though you could plug in any number of QBs in the same situation with the same results - although who knows if every one would have sold their soul to do it. The way the whole Brady GOAT thing gets casually tossed around now drives me crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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