billsherd Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 They unintentionally did illegal things....okay.? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 The Bengals better have made a copy of the tape before sending it to the league. I didn't read the whole thread or much about this, so apologize if this has been covered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 League will come down with something fast. And they WILL be out for blood with repeat offenders. so damn beautiful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykidsdad Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Even if unintentional with a great cover story, if there is any filming of the field or sidelines it is another break of league rules. Factor in that they didn't inform the league or Bengals they would be taping, and it is a serious repeat offense, no matter what the cover story is EVEN IF the cover story is true.. This could be very serious, like million dollar fines and suspensions. Then, once Krafts criminal case proceeds that could be additional censure. I'm microwaving some popcorn. This could be fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanInCt74 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 https://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/13533995/split-nfl-new-england-patriots-apart everyone please read this it explains everything the pats do to cheat. Ex players coming out and ratting on them . You need to know who ernie adams is. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykidsdad Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 3 hours ago, NoSaint said: it’s still a bit odd to me they’d lay tape for 7 other segments just to set up the bengals for this. That’s high level commitment for low level gains. why not run this scam for a bigger game, no? not so much a defense as a curiousity I think the Pats may have a number of real documentaries and video journaling going on that filters to legit sources, just like criminals run legitimate businesses that help hide and justify illicit activities. I dont know this to be true, but it possible, and would be the clever way to do it. Perhaps, one man on the team may ne the guy doing the spying, while the other two are doing actual stories for the website. They fo lots of places where media badges take them and who knows what they see and hear. Even if we give benefit of the doubt, and pretend the filming was unintentional or inadvertent, if they filmed the sideline, it is still a huge violation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanInCt74 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Its a long read but worth it . Ive been so pissed since i read it . I live amongst these cheater fans and deal with alot of bull#### supporting the bills. I wish someone would tweet this article out To the major nfl fans chats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 9 hours ago, MAJBobby said: On the Sidelines. again NOTHING in the rule book about from the Pressbox where the advance Scouts are allowed to sit two weeks before the game. that is how the rule reads. You cannot video from certain areas. Nothing in the rules about the advance scouts from the press box. that was the SpyGate problem they were videoing from the sideline with a high powered mic and piping it into the offensive booth Weren't they also caught taping the Rams walk-throughs prior to the SB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 8 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: They’ve been working on this documentary for like 12 years now! When it’s finally released should be a real doozy Like The Office, only slightly less lovable and funny and cathartic (unless of course their very real and paradoxical blend of hubris and existential panic does in fact lead to a third documented case of misconduct). Dunder Mifflin had a lesser known Foxboro branch, apparently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 9 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: How is it possible teams are still using hand signals?? You always have back-up for when the Pats pipe the local radio station into your headsets 9 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: Lol they had permission from the Browns have the videographer up there.. The HOME team knew he was there and somehow this fell threw the cracks of communication.. the fact they turned over the video so quickly pretty much makes the story dead.. And how do we know they turned over everything they had. It was reported in spygate investigation they were coached on what to say if caught. You dont think they would be coached to turn over fake footage?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 4 hours ago, NoSaint said: it’s still a bit odd to me they’d lay tape for 7 other segments just to set up the bengals for this. That’s high level commitment for low level gains. why not run this scam for a bigger game, no? not so much a defense as a curiousity You really think the Bengals are the only team they've done this to this year? They just got caught at this game. I wouldnt put it past them to come up with this elaborate "do your job" bs series as their cover-up. 4 hours ago, NoSaint said: https://www.patriots.com/video/do-your-job-equipment-staff how many in the series really give the opportunity though? We also dont know how many takes they've done to get the "perfect shot" for the scout show. They could of used this all season under the guise of the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 NFL needs to release tape and suspend Belichick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Still at the cheating once a cheat always a cheat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 You would think the other owners, especially afc owners, are in an "enough is enough" spot if this is cheating. I have a pretty strong suspicion these clowns have been doing this all year and longer Teams in the nfl dont go on 21 game home win streaks and have this sort of unchallenged success. The Patriots arent that good. It makes no sense unless you consider that either bill belichick is some sort of sorceror, or he cheats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 It would seem to me the NFL could check if NE got press credentials for videographers at other games involving future oponnents. The actual film and other oponnents inquiry should seal the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entropyrules Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I was discussing with my spousal unit and she quipped its ironic they are called the "Patriots." I am more concerned that this behavior is more a reflection of our current societal thinking where the end justifies the means..lies don't matter as long as they help you get to the result you want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I understand it’s difficult to regulate everyone who’s around a stadium in gameday, but’s it’s absurd the league can’t put better measures in place to prevent this. There was some interesting stuff in that article. Stuff like stealing play sheets out of the opposing locker room doesn’t seem like something that should be able to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, BillsFanInCt74 said: https://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/13533995/split-nfl-new-england-patriots-apart everyone please read this it explains everything the pats do to cheat. Ex players coming out and ratting on them . You need to know who ernie adams is. Disturbing article detailing how long BB has been cheating and to what lengths they have gone. Goes back to his Browns days. Where there is smoke, there is fire. About time the NFL actually does something that neuters the patsies. It disgusts me that they have cheated their way to many wins and Super Bowl titles, hopefully it goes the way of Bonds/McGuire/Sosa. Everyone knows what they did to cheat and treated justly. I do believe the league has backed off for years because the patsies help sell the NFL, it's all about revenue. They need a team like them - a HOF low round draft pick QB, "no-name" players coming up big, years of "excellence". Thing is, most of their big wins are because of cheating. One that sticks with me after reading the article is the Rams Super Bowl. They absolutely beat the Rams based on having taped them - knowing Faulk would be returning kickoffs, new Rams offensive plays they should have no business deciphering yet they were ready for. What the league needs before they actually would do something is a team or teams that can carry the league. Right now the new league darlings are the Niners and Ravens. Niners don't have the feel of a great team, but the Ravens do. The ascension of the Ravens may just spell the end of the patsies getting the calls and league backdoor help to continue to win. All that being said, the NFL needs to lay the hammer on them. At first they tried to say they were not taping anything important, quickly it's come out they were taping the sidelines of the Bengals. BB has come out with a statement that "to the best of his knowledge" nothing wrong happened...you don't say "to the best of my knowledge" unless you're guilty and want to play the plausible deniability card. It would be very interesting to see where this "do your job" video team has been. Be interesting if they just happen to be at their next opponents games. Enough is enough. Edited December 10, 2019 by davefan66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) Patriots admit video crew violated NFL rules The New England Patriots admitted a video crew violated NFL rules, though the Super Bowl … The New England Patriots admitted a video crew violated NFL rules, though the Super Bowl champions maintained it was not on purpose. On Monday, Patriots head coach Bill Belichick strongly denied the team's football operations were involved in alleged filming of the Cincinnati Bengals last week ahead of Sunday's upcoming clash. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/even-with-patriots-admission-to-inappropriately-filming-bengals-game-nfl-needs-to-release-tape-045600579.html Even with Patriots' admission to 'inappropriately' filming Bengals game, NFL needs to release tape Oh CNN New England Patriots admit to 'inappropriately' filming after accused of recording Cincinnati Bengals sideline The Film Documentary - DO YOUR JOB - cheat when you can ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported that a scout was credentialed by the Browns for the game played in Cleveland to be filmed on site for a Patriots production titled “Do Your Job.” The NFL confiscated the video after the Bengals employee witnessed and flagged the camerawork to the league, according to the report. A Patriots source then told Russini that it was a “very big misunderstanding and lack of communication with the Bengals.” So the Browns agreed but the Bengals were not notified.. Yeah right, a lack of communication Edited December 10, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 So if it was all on the up and up, and these guys were filming for a production they are making, why would they ask if they could just destroy the video? If it's all legit, you kindly give them the film and stand by your work. You're just gonna throw it away instead? Complete BS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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