HOUSE Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Why is Baltimore running up the score & still using Lamar Jackson in the 4th ? Eventually he will be injured , the guy only weighs 212 LBs... If he makes it to the SB it will most likely be with an injury. He's has been lucky so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, billrooter said: Jackson now has over a thousand rushing yards and 33 TDs and six picks, you still think RW is winning the MVP, oh and he is on the best team in the NFL with wins over a lot of playoff teams already? Yep I still think Wilson is the MVP. It isn't a criticism of Jackson in any way. The kid is a brilliant player. But he is on a stacked Ravens team. Take Wilson off the Seahawks and they would be lucky to win 6 games. Edited December 13, 2019 by GunnerBill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Yep I still think Wilson is the MVP. It isn't a criticism of Jackson in any way. The kid is a brilliant player. But he is on a stacked Ravens team. Take Wilson off the Seahawks and they would be lucky to win 6 games. That's certainly your opinion but I think the MVP race is over barring something catastrophic happening. I think Vegas had Lamar's MVP chances at roughly 80% before last night's 5 TD game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, DCOrange said: That's certainly your opinion but I think the MVP race is over barring something catastrophic happening. I think Vegas had Lamar's MVP chances at roughly 80% before last night's 5 TD game. Yea you may well be right. I'd still vote for Wilson if I had a vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Yep I still think Wilson is the MVP. It isn't a criticism of Jackson in any way. The kid is a brilliant player. But he is on a stacked Ravens team. Take Wilson off the Seahawks and they would be lucky to win 6 games. That team is NOT stacked on offense. Average WR's. Average TE's. The scheme and Lamar's threat of running is making the offense run. Put RGIII in and they do not have half of the success. Lamar is far and away the MVP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 15 completions for 200 yards and 5 TD screams system QB. That said he is doing very well and extremely efficient at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Yep I still think Wilson is the MVP. It isn't a criticism of Jackson in any way. The kid is a brilliant player. But he is on a stacked Ravens team. Take Wilson off the Seahawks and they would be lucky to win 6 games. Both are great players and while the Ravens are better than the Seahawks I don't see anyway Wilson gets the MVP. It's going to Jackson. Both are deserving but Jackson more so with what he is doing both passing and running. 12-2 with 10 straight wins including a beat down of the evil empire. Jackson has been the main part in all of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Yep I still think Wilson is the MVP. It isn't a criticism of Jackson in any way. The kid is a brilliant player. But he is on a stacked Ravens team. Take Wilson off the Seahawks and they would be lucky to win 6 games. Take any MVP candidate QB off his team and the result is similar. A point not worth making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Lamar Jackson is having a special season. His performance both on and off the field have given the NFL a good jolt of fresh air. Jackson is great for the league. And he deserves the MVP this year. Having said this, why do we NEED to compare Jackson to Josh Allen? Let these guys be their own QB's. Both are in their 2nd year, and are both having success at different levels. Just let it play out and enjoy. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Yep I still think Wilson is the MVP. It isn't a criticism of Jackson in any way. The kid is a brilliant player. But he is on a stacked Ravens team. Take Wilson off the Seahawks and they would be lucky to win 6 games. Are the Ravens really that stacked? They have a rookie receiver who hasn’t been healthy (the Seahawks have Metcalf who has been awesome); a 4th round 2nd year TE, and Mark Ingram who has been out rushed by Chris Carson the past 2 years. we’re nitpicking here because Wilson is awesome but Jackson has been steroids to that team. They are averaging 10 more points a game. Jackson is the MVP and I don’t think it’s really that close good sir. 40 minutes ago, Like A Mofo said: Lamar Jackson is having a special season. His performance both on and off the field have given the NFL a good jolt of fresh air. Jackson is great for the league. And he deserves the MVP this year. Having said this, why do we NEED to compare Jackson to Josh Allen? Let these guys be their own QB's. Both are in their 2nd year, and are both having success at different levels. Just let it play out and enjoy. Because we need to compare everything! We used to argue over Jackson and Spiller when we had both guys playing effectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 NFL MVP this year will be younger than this years Heisman winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) Jackson is an absolute beast but I think too many are ignoring the inevitable... Come year 5, the Ravens will have to allocate a huge portion of their cap to Lamar Jackson. Are years 5-10 of Lamar Jackson going to be worse, the same, or better than what we’re seeing right now? An argument could certainly be made that he might be better, but unlike other running QBs, his game is entirely predicated off his ability to design run. The hits will eventually add up. Edited December 14, 2019 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Didn't people on this board anoint Carson Wentz and Dak Prescott as the next Jesus and John the Baptist last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 8 hours ago, PolishDave said: Didn't people on this board anoint Carson Wentz and Dak Prescott as the next Jesus and John the Baptist last year? what’s your point? Neither have put together an MVP season like Lamar has. Could he regress? Sure. We’ll wait and see. But to strawman like this makes you look foolish. Seriously the reflexive hating on this kid by so many here is odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 On 12/13/2019 at 7:26 AM, HOUSE said: Why is Baltimore running up the score & still using Lamar Jackson in the 4th ? Eventually he will be injured , the guy only weighs 212 LBs... If he makes it to the SB it will most likely be with an injury. He's has been lucky so far playing like this is drooled over by the media until the inevitable too-soon curtailing from injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Lamar clearly deserves better marks as a passer than he was given credit for in the pre-draft process. Petrino and a handful of observers said so but the powers that be were not listening. Shame on them and kudos to the kid. Having said that he still has plenty to prove in the passing department. In the scheme he's running he is taking full advantage of good accuracy, ball placement, quick release and adequate arm strength. But everything, including the Raven's passing game, leverages off the run, including of course what he contributes to that personally. The test will be what happens when, as I believe is inevitable, he finally has to transition to a more fully developed conventional passing attack with more challenging throws and multiple downfield reads etc...I don't think that skill jumps out of his college tape, or such of it that I remember seeing. I'm sure Belly is thinking the way to beat him is still to force him to be less of a runner and more of a QB. I have no doubt that the next time the Pats and Ravens match up, Bill will be much better prepared. It is quite possible that the shelf life of the Raven's offence will start to expire fairly soon, like in the upcoming playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 5 hours ago, row_33 said: playing like this is drooled over by the media until the inevitable too-soon curtailing from injury Which QB has missed games due to injuries each season, Jackson or Allen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 The LJ hate here is positively cringeworthy. We dumping on an MVP year now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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