OIG FISA Report Discussion and the real reason for the FBI Mar-a-Lago raid

[Deranged Rhino]

2 hours ago, Koko78 said:

FISA Court Blacklists FBI Agents Involved in Surveilling Carter Page

 

Good start, but the process still needs to be blown up. Simply barring some corrupt agents from appearing (until their review is completed with nothing more than token punishments meted out) does nothing to end the systemic abuses of this secret court hearing carefully-selected secret information.

 

Yup. 

 

Though the most interesting news (even though it's not news) is that the FISC believes there are DOJ/FBI personnel under CRIMINAL investigation. 

(like Horowitz said and GarBoTibs still deny to this day as being real)

[B-Man]

 

 

TOM FITTON ON WHY FISA REFORM WITHOUT PROSECUTIONS WON’T WORK: 

 

Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton lays it out in stark terms –

 

“reforming” the FISA Court without putting people from government in jail who violated the Constitution while deceiving the court between 2012 and 2017 will fail.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LITTLE DOUBT THAT THE GOVERNMENT BREACHED ITS DUTY OF CANDOR: 

 

The 21 words uttered by FISA court that change the Russia collusion case forever: Judge rules for first time FBI misled, rejecting years of excuse making and suggesting process reforms won’t be enough.

 

 

Means nothing unless people lose their jobs and go to jai.

 

 

 

 

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Edited March 10, 2020 by B-Man

[Deranged Rhino]

1 minute ago, B-Man said:

 

 

TOM FITTON ON WHY FISA REFORM WITHOUT PROSECUTIONS WON’T WORK: 

 

Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton lays it out in stark terms –

 

“reforming” the FISA Court without putting people from government in jail who violated the Constitution while deceiving the court between 2012 and 2017 will fail.

 

 

 

 

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This is such an important point. It's bigger than petty partisan politics. Always has been.

[B-Man]

FISA REFORM, REAL AND IMAGINARY

 

Three provisions of the Patriot Act will expire unless they are reauthorized tomorrow. As described by Andy McCarthy, they involve:

(a) roving wiretaps, which allow agents to continue monitoring, say, a terrorist who uses burner phones to try to defeat surveillance;

(b) “lone wolf” authority, which allows agents to monitor a foreigner who appears to be involved in terrorism without evidence tying him to a known terrorist organization; and

(c) the court-authorized collection of business records — a power long unremarkably exercised by criminal investigators (and which, if reauthorized, would no longer permit intelligence agents to engage in the controversial bulk-collection of telephone metadata).

Reauthorizing these provisions should be a no-brainer. As McCarthy observes:

Congress has reauthorized them, repeatedly, because they help protect us from terrorist attacks. Their value is so plain to see that they should not be subject to sunset clauses at all — the clauses should have been removed, with the proviso that Congress could always amend them (as lawmakers have done with the business records provision) or even repeal them if truly egregious abuses occurred.

Yet, a bipartisan coalition of Senators, including the chronically irresponsible Rand Paul and Mike Lee, have resisted reauthorization. In this effort, they seek to tap into mainstream conservative unhappiness with the FISA abuse that enabled the Obama administration to spy on Carter Page of the Trump campaign in 2016.

It is obvious, however, that the three Patriot Act provisions cited above have nothing to do with the FISA abuses that rightly upset President Trump and mainstream conservatives. McCarthy puts it this way:

[T]hese three tools have nothing to do with FBI accountability. They have nothing to do with the bureau’s infamous “Crossfire Hurricane” probe. Indeed, they have very little to do with FISA — and nothing to do with the Russia-related malfeasance that comes to mind when Paul, Lee, and Trump supporters rail about “FISA reform.”

 

These are PATRIOT Act provisions. Though they are being threatened under the pretext of “fixing” FISA, they were enacted nearly a quarter-century after the FISA statute. They are labeled “FISA” only because Congress happened to insert them into the FISA sections of the United States Code.

 

Letting the three provisions expire is not FISA reform. The Senate should reauthorize them.

 

The more interesting question, which is not on the table tomorrow, is what to do about the FISA court. Broadly speaking, I see three possible answers: (1) get rid of the court and prohibit the kind of surveillance it authorizes (or, in rare cases, declines to authorize), (2) get rid of the court and allow the government to engage in that kind of surveillance without judicial authorization, (3) keep the court and consider reforms that might better safeguard against abuses.

 

 

More at the link:

 

 

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[B-Man]

They just keep repeating the same lie over and over..........

DNC Responds To Carter Page Lawsuit, Claiming Steele Dossier Is ‘Substantially True'

https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/21/steele-dossier-carter-page-lawsuit/

 

 

 

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[Albwan]

11 minutes ago, B-Man said:

They just keep repeating the same lie over and over..........

DNC Responds To Carter Page Lawsuit, Claiming Steele Dossier Is ‘Substantially True'

https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/21/steele-dossier-carter-page-lawsuit/

 

 

 

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Of course there is degrees of truth pfft...

This is like more true than say false, but not as true as true true

[Nanker]

2 hours ago, Albwan said:

Of course there is degrees of truth pfft...

This is like more true than say false, but not as true as true true

Well, each of the words are true because ya know, they’re “truly“ words. How they’re put together is another thing entirely. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

16 hours ago, Nanker said:

Well, each of the words are true because ya know, they’re “truly“ words. How they’re put together is another thing entirely. 

 

[BillsFanNC]

You don't say?

 

Now we know why they raided Mar-a-lago in search of "missing" "top secret" documents.

 

Last year, John Durham, a special prosecutor for the Department of Justice (DOJ), concluded that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) should never have opened its investigation of alleged collusion by then-presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and Russia in late July of 2016.

 

Now, multiple credible sources tell Public and Racket that the United States Intelligence Community (IC), including the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), illegally mobilized foreign intelligence agencies to target Trump advisors long before the summer of 2016.

 

Unknown details about the FBI’s investigation of the Trump campaign and raw intelligence related to the IC’s surveillance of the Trump campaign are in a 10-inch binder that Trump ordered to be declassified at the very end of his term, sources told Public and Racket

 

They were making contacts and bumping Trump people going back to March 2016,” a source close to the investigation said. “They were sending people around the UK, Australia, Italy — the Mossad in Italy. The MI6 was working at an intelligence school they had set up.”

The IC, a source said, considered the 26 Trump campaign people identified to “bump” or “reverse target,” or manipulate through confidential human sources (CHSs), to be easy marks because of their relative inexperience.

 

Doing so was illegal, both because US law prohibits such intelligence gathering unless authorized by a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant and because the weaponization of the IC for political purposes constitutes election interference.
 

 

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🎯 

 

And once you know this you can also accept that even if Trump is able to overcome the election rigging and interference that will only get worse, he will never be sworn in.

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

Fact check: True

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

Old news for those of us paying attention.

 

But here's CNN reporting exactly what went on with the CIA using five eyes nations to spy on Trump because they could not.

 

The FBI could with a FISA though......

 

Headline:

 

 

British intelligence passed Trump associates’ communications with Russians on to US counterparts

 

 

https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/13/politics/trump-russia-british-intelligence/index.html

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🎯 

 

They're all the same scandal.

 

 

[BillStime]

lmao - the PSYOP continues...

 

jfc