C.Biscuit97 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Augie said: OUCH! Must be less than a heart warming vote of confidence to know your employer filed a claim to replace you! That’s life in the Big Leagues. True but that’s the business. The great thing is he has the power to change everything with a good game. It’s weird because no one cares about kickers but it could come down to that and the Ravens have the best one in the nfl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 dang. I like this kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Augie said: OUCH! Must be less than a heart warming vote of confidence to know your employer filed a claim to replace you! That’s life in the Big Leagues. It does not automatically mean loss of confidence in Hauschka. Part of Beane strategy to keep him away from Pats. That said, no harm in lighting a bit of fire under H$ as well Edited December 5, 2019 by IgotBILLStopay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stenbar Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 14 hours ago, The Dean said: FINALLY somebody gets what's happening. It just shocks me that, at this point in the year, nobody seems to understand the Bills just can't sign any player that's cut. Cap hit has NOTHING to do with it. And let's get something straight, Hauschka's leg isn't "shot". He's kicking off out of the endzone better than I can remember---so there is still some power there. But something is definately off. I'm thinking this is probably his last year in Buffalo. But for this year. until there is a legit better kicker that is available to sign, he's our guy. Whining they need to get someone else, without offering a name who is available to sign, and is a definite upgrade, is just stupidity. As far as I can tell, there just isn't anyone better available right now. I'm sure if there was, Beane would be working him out. I have a feeling that the claim was two-fold. One to put Hauschka on notice, second to male sure the Pats did not get him. IMO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I would love to draft a kicker earlier than round 7 I think they value a 5-7th round pick as we see so many games coming down to a game winning FG 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: I would love to draft a kicker earlier than round 7 I think they value a 5-7th round pick as we see so many games coming down to a game winning FG Roberto Aguayo says hi. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 52 minutes ago, Uncle Joe said: Roberto Aguayo says hi. I never said round 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 54 minutes ago, Uncle Joe said: Roberto Aguayo says hi. If we are going to talk early round kickers, Sebastian Janikowski is the archetype. Based on the Aguayo failure, I doubt we see a kicker taken in the first 4 rounds for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) Geeze... if the Bills would stop all this winning, esp vs NFC opponents (hurting playoff chances to boot) they might have had a shot on the waiver wire at getting a decent kicker.... ?♂️ Edited December 5, 2019 by Over 29 years of fanhood 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: If we are going to talk early round kickers, Sebastian Janikowski is the archetype. Based on the Aguayo failure, I doubt we see a kicker taken in the first 4 rounds for years. SJ's lifetime FG pct was 80.4. He's a bit overrated. The FG pct for Justin Tucker, who wasn't drafted, is 90.6. Gostkowski -- a fourth rounder -- is at 87.4 (and 88.6 pct in the postseason). He was probably worth it; he's 25 for 35 on 50+ yarders. He's the model for drafting a kicker. The Bills have a lot of late round picks, and spending one on a good kicking prospect isn't a bad idea. That said, so many good kickers - Will Lutz, Robbie Gould -- weren't drafted at all, and a average ones like Mike Nugent (80.9 pct; drafted in the second round) and SeaBass (first rounder) were. It's really a crapshoot. Hauschka is at 85.4, but he's really slipped in the last couple of years (although he is 14 for 16 in kicks under 50 yards this season). Interestingly, he's 95.6 pct in the postseason - 20 for 21. Edited December 5, 2019 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: If we are going to talk early round kickers, Sebastian Janikowski is the archetype. Augie already suggested ‘turning to the poll’ on page 1 of this thread. * Oh, ‘poll’. Not ‘Pole’. Alexa didn’t read that with the correct inflection. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Augie said: OUCH! Must be less than a heart warming vote of confidence to know your employer filed a claim to replace you! That’s life in the Big Leagues. . I love it. Sends a clear message to Hauschka and encourages fans that the Bills actually do see the problem. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: SJ's lifetime FG pct was 80.4. He's a bit overrated. The FG pct for Justin Tucker, who wasn't drafted, is 90.6. Gostkowski -- a fourth rounder -- is at 87.4 (and 88.6 pct in the postseason). He was probably worth it; he's 25 for 35 on 50+ yarders. He's the model for drafting a kicker. The Bills have a lot of late round picks, and spending one on a good kicking prospect isn't a bad idea. That said, so many good kickers - Will Lutz, Robbie Gould -- weren't drafted at all, and a average ones like Mike Nugent (80.9 pct; drafted in the second round) and SeaBass (first rounder) were. It's really a crapshoot. Hauschka is at 85.4, but he's really slipped in the last couple of years (although he is 14 for 16 in kicks under 50 yards this season). Interestingly, he's 95.6 pct in the postseason - 20 for 21. Good stuff. The bolded is an understatement, by the way. A really good kicker like Gostkowski (as opposed to an average or below average one) is probably the difference in one or two games per year. How many other positions can you say that about? The fact that few kickers have been drafted early is not a reflection on the relative value of the position, but rather, as you point out, the fact that it's a huge crapshoot. There seems to be little correlation between where (or even whether) a kicker is drafted and how well he will perform in the NFL. It's strange, because you would think that a great college kicker (especially one from a major program who is used to kicking in front of 80,000 people) would almost automatically become a great NFL kicker. I mean, it's not like they have to adjust to playing against bigger, faster guys, like position players do... Edited December 5, 2019 by mannc 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Too bad Dan Carpenter played so well when Hopkins went on IR in 2013. He's been solid for the Redskins for 5 years now. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Smh. He could've been tucked away on the practice squad; there were signs of Hauschka's decline before that extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 22 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: I love it. Sends a clear message to Hauschka and encourages fans that the Bills actually do see the problem. Yeah quite smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Hauschka better be thanking his lucky stars and on top of his game the rest of the year. If not he knows what's coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Me thinks we will be looking at kickers in the offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 A pretty good outcome for Bills. Chase isn't a huge improvement over Hauschka. Then they would have had to cut someone to give him a roster spot. Yet Chase is an improvement over the garbage kicking game in NE. Win win 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, GG said: A pretty good outcome for Bills. Chase isn't a huge improvement over Hauschka. Then they would have had to cut someone to give him a roster spot. Yet Chase is an improvement over the garbage kicking game in NE. Win win Completely agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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