lookylookyherecomescookie Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Given Josh's measurables, those things that are facts, not subject to opinion 1. age 2. contract 3. size 4. speed 5. arm strength and his immeasurables, those things that everyone has opinions on 1. Intelligence 2. work ethic 3. leadership 4. potential 5. competitiveness 6. and most important-ability to be an NFL QB I was wondering how many and which nfl gms would trade their starting QB straight up for Josh today. I'm convinced that the pats would do it in a heartbeat, but only once this season was over. Thoughts? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 A lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 At least yesterday, the Cowboys 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 John Elway has to be thinking, " I could have drafted him and be set at QB for years, instead I took a DE" 3 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Maybe 15? I'd say he's probably just inside the top 15 of QB play right now. Maybe more when you consider teams like NO, SD, and even maybe NE that would want to do so to ensure their future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 After this year 31 teams, Mahomes is the only QB I might take over Allen but I love the way Allen plays the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, bilzfancy said: John Elway has to be thinking, " I could have drafted him and be set at QB for years, instead I took a DE" Thank god elway is a incompetent GM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, lookylookyherecomescookie said: Given Josh's measurables, those things that are facts, not subject to opinion 1. age 2. contract 3. size 4. speed 5. arm strength and his immeasurables, those things that everyone has opinions on 1. Intelligence 2. work ethic 3. leadership 4. potential 5. competitiveness 6. and most important-ability to be an NFL QB I was wondering how many and which nfl gms would trade their starting QB straight up for Josh today. I'm convinced that the pats would do it in a heartbeat, but only once this season was over. Thoughts? they can't have him. he's ours! 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, lookylookyherecomescookie said: Given Josh's measurables, those things that are facts, not subject to opinion 1. age 2. contract 3. size 4. speed 5. arm strength and his immeasurables, those things that everyone has opinions on 1. Intelligence 2. work ethic 3. leadership 4. potential 5. competitiveness 6. and most important-ability to be an NFL QB I was wondering how many and which nfl gms would trade their starting QB straight up for Josh today. I'm convinced that the pats would do it in a heartbeat, but only once this season was over. Thoughts? A lot of teams couldn’t due to cap accelerations. But Josh is looking really good. The Browns and Eagles games feel like distant memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, bilzfancy said: John Elway has to be thinking, " I could have drafted him and be set at QB for years, instead I took a DE" He's married to this, he's fine. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Stop Billeiving Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Legitimately believe that Baltimore, Seattle, Green Bay, Dallas, and Kansas City are the only teams that wouldn't make that trade (considering that the Pats, Saints, etc. who have great QBs that are older would make this trade for the future). Potential counts for a lot in this league and now that he has improved his accuracy so much, he's matching his insane physical traits and intangibles with production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said: He's married to this, he's fine. So not only is Elway a bad judge of talent but he married a fan of an in-division rival??? ?Plenty of hot girls who like the Broncos Johnny !!! 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Almost all GMs would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 How many wives in Buffalo would trade their husbands for JA? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 ? AFC Would not Trade - Jets, Ravens, Browns, Texans, Broncos, Chiefs. Would Trade - Patriots, Steelers, Colts, Jaguars, Titans, Chargers. Not Sure - Bengals, Dolphins, Raiders. NFC Would Not Trade - Cowboys, Eagles, Giants, Packers, Vikings, Saints, 49ers, Cardinals, Seahawks. Would Trade - Washington, Bears, Buccaneers, Falcons, Panthers, Not Sure - Lions, Rams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 21 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: At least yesterday, the Cowboys ..probably the 'Fins......Josh for the "other Josh"...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 24 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Maybe 15? I'd say he's probably just inside the top 15 of QB play right now. Maybe more when you consider teams like NO, SD, and even maybe NE that would want to do so to ensure their future. I think this is right. Id throw him in at 12 but top 15 without having to think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said: I think this is right. Id throw him in at 12 but top 15 without having to think about it. I'd say if you project this play throughout the year then yeah, top 12-8 easy. That being said, overall with early season struggles he's still probably peaking at top 15. (there's some bad QB play this year, which helps). That's a slightly different question over what OP asked... That one is harder to tangibilize cause you gotta think about vision and current QB situation. Would the Vikings trade Kirk (whose having a big season) and his huge salary for Josh? Maybe, if they could see how to use him and they could dedicate that cash to other aspects. I think he would have more overall value than even Lamar, as I think he has more system flexibility, even if he isn't playing as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Maybe a better question is "How many other NFL teams would Brandon Beane trade Josh Allen to, for their QB straight up"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 25 minutes ago, DefenseWins said: Maybe a better question is "How many other NFL teams would Brandon Beane trade Josh Allen to, for their QB straight up"? For me right now- none. JA might be best QB in league for next decade, he is in mix with about 5 other guys right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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