Aaronthebaron Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 I hate the Pats as much as anyone here, but making them win is bad for the NFL, no one outside New England wants to watch them win again, ratings would take another hit if the Pats are in the Super Bowl. They want an exciting game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, badassgixxer05 said: What was the result of that 3rd and 7, supposed to be 6, play? Would be really f'd up if they gained 6 and moving that marker forced them to take the field goal. I don't remember.. 2 yard pass to the NE 9. So if the marker never moved they would have been a touch over 4 yards short. Still messed up none the less. 1 minute ago, Aaronthebaron said: I hate the Pats as much as anyone here, but making them win is bad for the NFL, no one outside New England wants to watch them win again, ratings would take another hit if the Pats are in the Super Bowl. They want an exciting game. Unfortunately people still watch hoping to see the Pats lose. Edited November 27, 2019 by Scott7975 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Let's just kick their ass so bad that even the cheating refs and NFL can't help them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) There is nothing altruistic about the NFL what so ever. That is all, Edited November 27, 2019 by Don Otreply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Don Otreply said: The league has always been “rigged” its is a privately owned organization, and a corporate monopoly, come on people, some billionaires have more sway than others, and the other billionaires don’t care as long as the cash rolls in. That some billionaires have more sway, sure, no doubt. But that the others don't care as long as money comes in? These dudes are competitive! They want to win, to bask in the glory. They already have boatloads of cash. No way they'd stand idles as they are robbed of the spotlight. Just think who gets to hoist the Superbowl trophy first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 47 minutes ago, Estelle Getty said: watching Little tom makeout with kraft and belly you post this a lot, psychiatrists call it “projection” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Aren't there markers on both sides of the field, though? Did they move both? The chyron still said 3rd & 6, even after the marker was moved a yard. The yellow line followed the marker, though. So do we know this materially affected any call on the field, or is this akin to the stadium timekeeper messing with the unofficial and irrelevant game clock, which isn't impactful because the official time is ultimately kept on the field? What is distressing about the above isn't that "the Cowboys had an yard added on a single drive." It's "what if that play had come down to a measurement?" That the marker can be move at all calls into question the validity of any first-down measurement performed. Next time a QB is denied a first down on a sneak on 4th and inches, how are we supposed to trust that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Getty Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: you post this a lot, psychiatrists call it “projection” Just twice, psychiatrists call your statement an exaggeration. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 I think they put the chain at the 15 and 5, but spotted the ball at the 14... So they move the marker to the 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, RobbRiddick said: Chin Lee Wow never spotted Kraft's balls wrongly Oh no, the wong spot?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Enough. There is no fix by the refs. Great teams and great players get the benefit of the doubt. Let it go. The league locked the refs out. The refs aren't doing any favors for anyone. Now Goodell destroying the tapes is a different matter. That was BS. The Bills can beat them on the road. In fact they can beat them soundly if the team does not get overhyped. The Bills play like they have to be perfect to win. They don't. They just need to play with some composure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 I can tell some people here haven’t actually played football. The official chain is on one side of the field, on the other side is a guy holding a marker and the chevron marker. He’s meant to look across the field and line it up to the official one. You can clearly see this isn’t the side with the official chain because look back 10 yards and there’s no other marker. Clearly the official who’s meant to eye it up didn’t get it right but that doesn’t matter, it’s not the official one. It’s only there so if someone runs to that side they have a rough idea where they need to get to. Sorry, no cheating to see here. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...not to worry!!....Schiff will be available shortly and has already hired Colombo and Matlock to lead the "rigging accusations".....SMH.... you been down in that dungeon too long... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 hours ago, peterpan said: Non N.E. conspirator here, but that did seem bit odd. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Elvis is alive, moon landing was B.S. and Paul wasn't the Walrus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: I can tell some people here haven’t actually played football. The official chain is on one side of the field, on the other side is a guy holding a marker and the chevron marker. He’s meant to look across the field and line it up to the official one. You can clearly see this isn’t the side with the official chain because look back 10 yards and there’s no other marker. Clearly the official who’s meant to eye it up didn’t get it right but that doesn’t matter, it’s not the official one. It’s only there so if someone runs to that side they have a rough idea where they need to get to. Sorry, no cheating to see here. So then why was first down played 11 from the moved marker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) So, I went to NFL.com and looked at the game logs. There was a deep pass just before this play and a 15 yard penalty tacked on to the end of the play. There is actually a highlight of the play. It looks to me as if the error was not in moving the marker but the initial placing of the ball after the penalty. It appears they spotted the ball a yard short of where it was supposed to be. They should have placed the ball at the 14 yard line and not the 15. From the highlight, to me, it actually looks like he got stopped at the 28 not the 29 which to me the ball should have been at the 13... that however could just be the camera angle. Either way they got screwed by a yard from a mistake somewhere along the lines. Don't think in this case "the fix was in" but just more incompetence. It is here:https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2019112409/2019/REG12/cowboys@patriots 2nd qtr in the field goal portion that made it 6-10 Edited November 27, 2019 by Scott7975 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 hours ago, RobbRiddick said: Chin Lee Wow never spotted Kraft's balls wrongly Wait... you mean ti say that Robert Kraft has spotted balls? Is that contagious? Does that make Tom the next victim? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Estelle Getty said: Careful there are alot of *pats apologists on here. They don’t want you to take away their moment of watching Little tom makeout with kraft and belly I like the cut of your jib Estelle Edited November 27, 2019 by Sherlock Holmes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Also. As much as I’d like to believe it. The yellow line is not officially the marker. I’d like to see the Closer end of the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: Also. As much as I’d like to believe it. The yellow line is not officially the marker. I’d like to see the Closer end of the field. Anyway you look at it its 11 yards from first down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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