Dkollidas Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 So I have a question regarding the rollover from salary cap space. Hypithetically, Buffalo has 20M in cap space this year. That rolls over to next season, giving them 80M in total cap space. after the 2020 season, if they have hypothetically 40M in cap space, does that entire 40 get rolled into 2021, or since 20M of it was from the 2019 rollover, does that “disappear” so to speak. basically does the rollover work on a year to year basis, or can it accumulate so that eventually a team could have an exorbitant amount of cap space if they kept theirs low for say 2-3 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/2020/ 2019 Rollover Cap $26,629,408 Cap Space $90,968,926 Dead Cap: $1,043,674 Est. Cap Space: $90,968,926 Rollover is year to year, Whats not used rolls over BUT teams must meet a spending limit Edited November 25, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeKayAdams Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Cutting Murphy and Kroft frees up $12 million more. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, KayAdams said: Cutting Murphy and Kroft frees up $12 million more. I didn't even read your post. I just saw your avatar and clicked "Like" Edit: Just read your post and my "Like" still stands 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 who is available to spend all this $$ on? keep in mind, if we keep building a culture like we have now people will WANT to come here... what a great time to be alive! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, rayray808 said: who is available to spend all this $$ on? keep in mind, if we keep building a culture like we have now people will WANT to come here... what a great time to be alive! 1st got to re-sign/extend their own. 2nd replace the FAs they don't re-sign. 3rd a DE and LB (best fit they can get). Save 25 million or so for next year. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/buffalo-bills/ 2020 FAs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 18 minutes ago, rayray808 said: who is available to spend all this $$ on? keep in mind, if we keep building a culture like we have now people will WANT to come here... what a great time to be alive! Possibly Vonnie B’VSean Miller I think there’s an option in his contract but I may be mistaken. AJ green. Few other good-decent DEs https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Dkollidas said: So I have a question regarding the rollover from salary cap space. Hypithetically, Buffalo has 20M in cap space this year. That rolls over to next season, giving them 80M in total cap space. after the 2020 season, if they have hypothetically 40M in cap space, does that entire 40 get rolled into 2021, or since 20M of it was from the 2019 rollover, does that “disappear” so to speak. basically does the rollover work on a year to year basis, or can it accumulate so that eventually a team could have an exorbitant amount of cap space if they kept theirs low for say 2-3 years? The $20M rolled-over from 2019 into 2020 would be used first, of sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 42 minutes ago, rayray808 said: who is available to spend all this $$ on? keep in mind, if we keep building a culture like we have now people will WANT to come here... what a great time to be alive! Trade for McCaffrey and Kuechly for when Lorax retires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 28 minutes ago, Doc said: The $20M rolled-over from 2019 into 2020 would be used first, of sorts. Got it. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 43 minutes ago, rayray808 said: who is available to spend all this $$ on? keep in mind, if we keep building a culture like we have now people will WANT to come here... what a great time to be alive! Re-sign Phillips, 8-10M AVV Re-Sign Lawson, 7-9M AVV Re-sign Spain 5-7M AVV Look at one of these DEs could range from 13-18 AVV Miller (if they cut him) Clowney Ngakoue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I am pretty sure that Tre White's new contract may eat up a portion of this cap space as well and a decision needs to be made on Dawkins as well. Shutdown corners and Left Tackles generally are two of the core building blocks of any team.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Re-sign Phillips, 8-10M AVV Re-Sign Lawson, 7-9M AVV Re-sign Spain 5-7M AVV Look at one of these DEs could range from 13-18 AVV Miller (if they cut him) Clowney Ngakoue Shaq Barrett & Amari Cooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Re-sign Phillips, 8-10M AVV Re-Sign Lawson, 7-9M AVV Re-sign Spain 5-7M AVV Look at one of these DEs could range from 13-18 AVV Miller (if they cut him) Clowney Ngakoue I like what you have here. Spend big on the DE in FA and draft one fairly high too. I might let Phillips walk and keep Liuget. Not exactly the same player But with Harrison coming back next year we might be able to spend money elsewhere like an AJ Green. If he is healthy I’d love him added to the mix. Any speculation on what he gets coming off the injury coupled with production and Julio’s contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: I like what you have here. Spend big on the DE in FA and draft one fairly high too. I might let Phillips walk and keep Liuget. Not exactly the same player But with Harrison coming back next year we might be able to spend money elsewhere like an AJ Green. If he is healthy I’d love him added to the mix. Any speculation on what he gets coming off the injury coupled with production and Julio’s contract? WRs cost a lot in UFA. I am thinking Green would get a 1 year 15M deal. something similar to that. Because of the INJ History. Also maybe like a 3 year deal might be around 17.5 AVV for him 23 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Shaq Barrett & Amari Cooper I really would rather not go buy a NO1 WR. The I would rather look to a strong draft in that position. DE is where I would go buy a talent. 29 minutes ago, DefenseWins said: I am pretty sure that Tre White's new contract may eat up a portion of this cap space as well and a decision needs to be made on Dawkins as well. Shutdown corners and Left Tackles generally are two of the core building blocks of any team.... Neither need to be done next year either. Edited November 25, 2019 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dkollidas said: So I have a question regarding the rollover from salary cap space. Hypithetically, Buffalo has 20M in cap space this year. That rolls over to next season, giving them 80M in total cap space. after the 2020 season, if they have hypothetically 40M in cap space, does that entire 40 get rolled into 2021, or since 20M of it was from the 2019 rollover, does that “disappear” so to speak. basically does the rollover work on a year to year basis, or can it accumulate so that eventually a team could have an exorbitant amount of cap space if they kept theirs low for say 2-3 years? It accumulates. The Browns basically did what you suggest. It can only be built up so fast though. That’s due to the minimum team spending requirements. The rollover is added to the baseline league salary cap for each team. Then that repeats every year. Edited November 25, 2019 by BarleyNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Milano is coming up to get paid. He will get a good contract.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Trade for McCaffrey and Kuechly for when Lorax retires Kuechly is a MLB, where Edmunds has been playing. I've thought for a while that Edmunds might be better suited to SAM than MIKE so he can use his speed more. So possibly Kuechly would fit, with Milano playing WILL. But, Kuechly isn't young anymore, and he's expensive, so probably not. McCaffrey with Singletary. Whoo. Yes please. I think Beane is looking 3-5 years down range, as he should. We have a lot of young, good and improving, players who will all be looking for big paychecks. The extra cap space will come in handy. I think we might need to win whatever we're going to win, while Josh Allen is still on his rookie contract. Once a QB proves himself and gets the first big contract, the team's entire salary structure goes sideways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I really would rather not go buy a NO1 WR. The I would rather look to a strong draft in that position. DE is where I would go buy a talent. I figure we are going to buy one in FA and draft the other. Cooper is the only WR I would look at in FA, you might get me on AJ Green depending on the deal/length. We had a chance to trade for Clowney and didn't I just don't see us going after him. Ngakoue fits a need and I see Barrett fitting a need as well. I would LOVE me some Von Miller, he has a $26 million cap hit next year and dead cap of $11.8 million; I don't think the Broncos are tight against the cap though. I see 3 real needs for us - #1WR, Edge Rusher & LB (LorAx replacement) What I like about Cooper is you can push the WR need down further (25 yrs old) and focus on an Edge Rusher in Rd1 & RD2 can be BPA. You could even think about sliding Edmunds into that role, if you can find a Kuechley. Whereas with Green (and his injury history & 31 yrs old), I need to prioritize WR a bit sooner and almost force myself to move in late RD1-early RD2 to grab a WR. Green buys you a season or 2 to get the rookie up to speed. What I like about Shaq Barrett, is that he can provide an edge rush and take over for LorAx who may retire or play one more year. This allows me to maneuver in RD1 for the WR want (and can realistically get). Seeing we play in nickel/dime frequently, I can line Barrett up to rush the passer opposite Hughes and deprioritize the need of the other end position and spend the money on a DT who will be cheaper. Barrett essentially fills 2 needs at one salary for us. It obviously depends on our draft position, the tier rankings within the positional groups, perceived team needs whop draft before us and those who are willing to trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 57 minutes ago, Utah John said: Kuechly is a MLB, where Edmunds has been playing. I've thought for a while that Edmunds might be better suited to SAM than MIKE so he can use his speed more. So possibly Kuechly would fit, with Milano playing WILL. But, Kuechly isn't young anymore, and he's expensive, so probably not. McCaffrey with Singletary. Whoo. Yes please. I think Beane is looking 3-5 years down range, as he should. We have a lot of young, good and improving, players who will all be looking for big paychecks. The extra cap space will come in handy. I think we might need to win whatever we're going to win, while Josh Allen is still on his rookie contract. Once a QB proves himself and gets the first big contract, the team's entire salary structure goes sideways. One of Kuechly or Edmunds slides over.. probably Edmunds. 45 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I figure we are going to buy one in FA and draft the other. Cooper is the only WR I would look at in FA, you might get me on AJ Green depending on the deal/length. We had a chance to trade for Clowney and didn't I just don't see us going after him. Ngakoue fits a need and I see Barrett fitting a need as well. I would LOVE me some Von Miller, he has a $26 million cap hit next year and dead cap of $11.8 million; I don't think the Broncos are tight against the cap though. I see 3 real needs for us - #1WR, Edge Rusher & LB (LorAx replacement) What I like about Cooper is you can push the WR need down further (25 yrs old) and focus on an Edge Rusher in Rd1 & RD2 can be BPA. You could even think about sliding Edmunds into that role, if you can find a Kuechley. Whereas with Green (and his injury history & 31 yrs old), I need to prioritize WR a bit sooner and almost force myself to move in late RD1-early RD2 to grab a WR. Green buys you a season or 2 to get the rookie up to speed. What I like about Shaq Barrett, is that he can provide an edge rush and take over for LorAx who may retire or play one more year. This allows me to maneuver in RD1 for the WR want (and can realistically get). Seeing we play in nickel/dime frequently, I can line Barrett up to rush the passer opposite Hughes and deprioritize the need of the other end position and spend the money on a DT who will be cheaper. Barrett essentially fills 2 needs at one salary for us. It obviously depends on our draft position, the tier rankings within the positional groups, perceived team needs whop draft before us and those who are willing to trade. You need to find Kuechly for sure... in a trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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