Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 The Athletic, paywall (free trial) -he thinks the 3 WR look might get the Broncos to sub someone for one of the 3 DL they use in a base defense. Not sure on that. -he likes the no-huddle idea to bring the Bills to the line faster and let Daboll have a chance to say something if he sees something -Cody Ford vs Von Miller and Cole Beasley vs Duke Dawson likely to be key matchups. I agree, and for that reason I would think we may be seeing more of either Kroft or Lee Smith to help with Miller (12 personnel) -on Defense, Tre White vs Sutton and the ability of Shaq and Hughes to disrupt may be key Predicted outcome: Buffalo 13, Denver 10 - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Seems like a fair assessment from your recap (don’t have access) and his score prediction seems conservative but fair. I really hope/slightly expect our offense to find early success moving the ball which should let us put pressure on Allen and cause some turnovers. We’re do for a multi-turnover day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Will be a high scoring game. Josh Allen will have running opportunities which set up pass. Von Miller can be contained with some misdirection. The experts predicting low scoring game are not thinking outside the box. So easy to go along with the popular opinion (See also Josh Rosen 2018). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 No one wants to see Lee Smith anywhere besides the waiver wire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Virgil said: No one wants to see Lee Smith anywhere besides the waiver wire Perhaps here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Murray Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Cody Ford has struggled so far this season and this is a HUGE matchup. The Broncos are better than their record and in particular on D. I think we need to run counters, draws, and QB options to nuetralize Von Miller, or he could easily eat Ford alive and have a good game. Key matchup is actually JA v Von Miller in the QB option IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jav Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 keys unique to this game (winning the turnover battle and not getting too many penalties applies to every game): 1)Neutralize Von Miller--3 ways to accomplish this: a)steady diet of Gore/Singletary, especially counter plays b)give Ford help (and by help I don't mean Lee Smith drawing a holding penalty) c)short routes to Beasley so that Allen won't get hit/sacked when Miller beats the OL (and it will happen--more than once) 2)Put pressure on Allen: blitz Edmunds and Milano just like last week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring it Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 26 minutes ago, Bill Murray said: Cody Ford has struggled so far this season and this is a HUGE matchup. The Broncos are better than their record and in particular on D. I think we need to run counters, draws, and QB options to nuetralize Von Miller, or he could easily eat Ford alive and have a good game. Key matchup is actually JA v Von Miller in the QB option IMHO. Definitely need to run the ball well and Allen will need to recognize when to change a play. Good test for him and this team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 53 minutes ago, Virgil said: No one wants to see Lee Smith anywhere besides the waiver wire I'd rather see Lee Smith on the field and eat a couple penalties than watch Von Miller "bringing the luggage" to flatten Josh Allen. I get it, he's been a penalty machine this year but the guy can block. 22 minutes ago, jav said: 2 keys unique to this game (winning the turnover battle and not getting too many penalties applies to every game): 1)Neutralize Von Miller--3 ways to accomplish this: a)steady diet of Gore/Singletary, especially counter plays b)give Ford help (and by help I don't mean Lee Smith drawing a holding penalty) c)short routes to Beasley so that Allen won't get hit/sacked when Miller beats the OL (and it will happen--more than once) 2)Put pressure on (Brandon) Allen: blitz Edmunds and Milano just like last week I agree that I'd like to see Josh have 1-2 solutions for pressure. I don't think just Beasley will do it. Some combination of Beasley/Knox/Singletary perhaps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Derek Wolfe is another problem as he and Von Miller work well in tandem together when they're on the same side with various stunts so that side of the line will have their hands full. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 One thing to keep in mind was how the Vikings played last week. From what I read, in the 2nd half they stacked the box and dared Den-Allen to beat them. He wasn't able to do it and in turn they shut down the Broncos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateHookerMD Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Woof, 13-10 sounds like a painful Sunday afternoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 If we don’t turn the ball over and make our field goals we win. Seems simple but as others have alluded, Von Miller can win the game himself if we don’t contain him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The Athletic, paywall (free trial) -he thinks the 3 WR look might get the Broncos to sub someone for one of the 3 DL they use in a base defense. Not sure on that. -he likes the no-huddle idea to bring the Bills to the line faster and let Daboll have a chance to say something if he sees something -Cody Ford vs Von Miller and Cole Beasley vs Duke Dawson likely to be key matchups. I agree, and for that reason I would think we may be seeing more of either Kroft or Lee Smith to help with Miller (12 personnel) -on Defense, Tre White vs Sutton and the ability of Shaq and Hughes to disrupt may be key Predicted outcome: Buffalo 13, Denver 10 - Christ. Now Joe B is going with the “Daboll tipping Josh off” stuff? Amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 31 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Derek Wolfe is another problem as he and Von Miller work well in tandem together when they're on the same side with various stunts so that side of the line will have their hands full. wolfe is one of the most underrated defensive players in the league in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 Just now, eball said: Christ. Now Joe B is going with the “Daboll tipping Josh off” stuff? Amazing. It is pretty much what Daboll himself said - that he didn't want to be in Josh's ear constantly because Josh had to play, but if they come to the line with enough time and he (Daboll) saw something where he felt he could add value by speaking up, that's what he'd do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: It is pretty much what Daboll himself said - that he didn't want to be in Josh's ear constantly because Josh had to play, but if they come to the line with enough time and he (Daboll) saw something where he felt he could add value by speaking up, that's what he'd do. I don't even know why people would have a problem with it if it does happen. There is nothing wrong with helping out the young QB if it does. I want my coaches doing this as long as he isn't getting crazy with it making it worse for Josh. Eventually he has to do it for himself. Its a team. Coaches are part of the team. If it helps win games then lets win some games. Edited November 23, 2019 by Scott7975 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 3 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Will be a high scoring game. Josh Allen will have running opportunities which set up pass. Von Miller can be contained with some misdirection. The experts predicting low scoring game are not thinking outside the box. So easy to go along with the popular opinion (See also Josh Rosen 2018). High scoring for Buffalo only. right? 1 hour ago, eball said: Christ. Now Joe B is going with the “Daboll tipping Josh off” stuff? Amazing. Joe likes clicks and this “stuff “ gets clicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 1 hour ago, PirateHookerMD said: Woof, 13-10 sounds like a painful Sunday afternoon I take a W here which ever way we can get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: I don't even know why people would have a problem with it if it does happen. There is nothing wrong with helping out the young QB if it does. I want my coaches doing this as long as he isn't getting crazy with it making it worse for Josh. Eventually he has to do it for himself. Its a team. Coaches are part of the team. If it helps win games then lets win some games. That’s how I feel. Some posters liken it to Goff and McVay. I don’t see it that way. Josh has been on his own for over a season. Having Daboll’s experience in his ear is a good thing, it could reinforce what he has learned and raise his confidence by confirming what he sees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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