Albany,n.y. Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 The irony is that if Chubb was gone by pick 5 the Bills had a deal in place to trade picks 12, 22 & 53 to Denver in a trade up for Allen. So instead of the question being whether the Broncos should have taken Chubb instead of Allen, the debate in Denver would be were the Broncos right in trading away the pick the Bills used for Allen. I guess that would now depend on who the Broncos picked. If they had used the 3 picks for 3 starters and one of the 1st rounders was Lamar Jackson they would be calling Elway a genius. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 They should, who doesn't want the next John Elway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) Does it really matter what fans want? He really is having a poor season tho...12 sacks last year and only 1 this year. Edited November 21, 2019 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunninRebel37 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 6 hours ago, Phil The Thrill said: A journalist in Denver put this tweet out the other day asking fans whether they would still draft Bradley Chubb over Josh Allen in the 2018 draft. As you can imagine this trigger a lot of responses. For the most part it was mixed but overall a lot of fans actually said that they would take Josh Allen over Bradley Chubb. Of course, you get the usually Twitter crowd trying to quantify why he Allen isn’t good. Overall a lot of them seem to be down on Chubb and are concerned about the QB position. One fan called Chubb “an OLB with a bum knee” ? Id say it’s about 60-40 Allen over Chubb based on those responses Similar to the questions of Allen v Jackson that are gonna be asked when Lamar & Co. come into town ? (I know my thoughts). Mid week garbage for a team that - prior to now - NEVER had two consecutive losing seasons since before Elway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 4 hours ago, matter2003 said: Does it really matter what fans want? He really is having a poor season tho...12 sacks last year and only 1 this year. If you call being on injured reserve after week 4 a poor season, then he's having a poor season. He's not having a poor season, he's been out for the season since week 4. I guess if you look at how many TDs Roethlisberger has thrown this year, he's having a poor season too. This is another example of looking at stats out of context. BTW, it's not personal, I hate football stats of all kinds and you just gave me a chance to condemn stats and I took it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Hopefully Allen has some motivation knowing the Broncos passed over him in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 It’s nice to see other fan bases play the painful and useless hindsight is 20/20 game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 10 hours ago, Tenhigh said: What kind of existence is that? I have a GREAT job where I sit at a desk for 12 hours at a time and monitor a particular railroad safety/navigation system that I know alot about, and when something goes awry, I handle it...but there is a whole lot of doing nothing between actually working....and so I have the time to "troll" around on message boards....etc etc. The Josh Allen thread at the orangemane is still getting alot of action....now especially since it's Bills vs Broncos week. Some of those folks are turning a bit.... ...anyhow. I will be rooting hard for a Bills victory this week. You all should have it in the bag....the Broncos are a bad team, with a QB who has played ok, but completing 50% of his passes. The Broncos never play well in early start eastern time zone games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 56 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: If you call being on injured reserve after week 4 a poor season, then he's having a poor season. He's not having a poor season, he's been out for the season since week 4. I guess if you look at how many TDs Roethlisberger has thrown this year, he's having a poor season too. This is another example of looking at stats out of context. BTW, it's not personal, I hate football stats of all kinds and you just gave me a chance to condemn stats and I took it. Hahaha, fair point...did not know he has been on IR...I guess that would explain some drop off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Zerovoltz - I don't see 60% of that forum saying that they prefer Allen to Chubb, more like 25%. That said, amongst all the fairly ignorant people on there, I wholeheartedly agree with the guy who points out that Josh does not throw receivers open. I truly believe that this is the only component of his game that is stopping him from achieving true quarterback greatness (the deep balls will come). If he can throw guys open and increase his YAC numbers then I am confident that we will have another HOFer on our books. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekills17 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 On 11/21/2019 at 8:38 AM, matter2003 said: Hahaha, fair point...did not know he has been on IR...I guess that would explain some drop off. I would be really impressed if he got a sack while on IR. DPOY stats there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 hours ago, SydneyBillsFan said: Zerovoltz - I don't see 60% of that forum saying that they prefer Allen to Chubb, more like 25%. That said, amongst all the fairly ignorant people on there, I wholeheartedly agree with the guy who points out that Josh does not throw receivers open. I truly believe that this is the only component of his game that is stopping him from achieving true quarterback greatness (the deep balls will come). If he can throw guys open and increase his YAC numbers then I am confident that we will have another HOFer on our books. In that thread only a few would want Allen, and the guy pointing out Allen doesn’t throw guys open is me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 1:00 PM, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: I understand the differing opinions. But someone over there is suggesting that Lock's floor is what Allen is playing at now, and that Locke is likely to be much better than Allen. I don't even know what to do with that comment. Drew Lock looks like Leave it to Beaver 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 11:30 AM, Jamie Nails said: Who would you rather have: Mahomes or White and the 22nd pick? Who would you rather have: Russell Wilson or TJ Graham? Who would you rather have: Rob Gronkowski or Torrell Troupe? Yeah. There's definitely a collective overreaction each week. Good performance; next Elway. Poor performance; bust. Whatever floats your boat, but the big picture isn't defined on a weekly basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Not Lamar Jackson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Well we complain about not picking Mahomes after every loss, so why are we mocking them.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 1:42 PM, Captain Hindsight said: Drafted Osweiler Lynch Simien Chad Kelly Drew Lock Signed/Traded for Manning Kennum Flacco Amazingly, the best one he drafted might have been Simien Did Elway draft Tebow as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Survivor Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 3:22 PM, row_33 said: poor Denver fans over the QBs they've had the last 20 years Poor Denver fans??? Didn't Manning set the touchdown record there? They went to the superbowl twice. Before Josh we hadn't had a starting level QB since Bledsoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 On 11/23/2019 at 7:48 AM, DCbillsfan said: Did Elway draft Tebow as well? No that was Josh McDaniels 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Until you have a good, or least highly promising, QB on your team, you need to draft the first QB you like that is available every draft, IMO. So that means that either Elway didn't think Allen and/or Jackson were good, which is looking false at this point, or he doesn't understand the value of the QB position in the modern game, which seems ridiculous considering he played it. Either way, it's totally on him, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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