Week 12: Broncos at Bills

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

https://sportsbookwire.usatoday.com/2019/11/21/denver-broncos-at-buffalo-bills-odds-picks-and-best-bets

 

Denver at Buffalo: Key injuries

The critical factor to know is that three Denver offensive line starters — Dalton Risner (ankle), Connor McGovern (back) and Ron Leary (shoulder/neck) sat out Wednesday’s practice and replacement starter Ju’Wuan James (knee) was limited. Buffalo offensive lineman Ty Nsekhe likely isn’t going to play because of an ankle injury and DE Jerry Hughes (groin) missed practice Wednesday. Like last week, Hughes will likely be listed as questionable, though he did play against Miami.

[CaptnCoke11]

1 hour ago, cd1 said:

 

Funny, that sounds so familiar...

 

Oh yeah regarding those pesky (losing) Browns!  

That could easily be a game they look back on that keeps them out of the playoffs 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

 

 

Is this ^ real life?

 

 

[billsfan89]

5 hours ago, Dont Stop Billeiving said:

Man, a kick or punt return TD from Roberts in a game like this would be massive. He has been really close to getting one for the last few weeks, the blocking has been great as well. 

 

Roberts has been a quality returner, he hasn't broken off that super big return just yet. But he has had a lot of 8-15 yard returns on punts and 30-40 yard kickoff returns that both help shift field position and make a difference. Roberts is a highly underrated acquisition, the return game last year was a mess and they added a top 5 or at worst 10 returner for very affordably. 

[atlbillsfan1975]

I really like how the Bills matchup against the Broncos. I think on defense the Bills can shut down the Broncos if they can take the run away. They should be able to accomplish this by putting Tre on their one wide receiver,Sutton, who is good. Milano and one of the safeties need cover Fant. Should leave a ton of guys to play in the box. Interesting to see who the coaches put out their on the other side of Tre, Johnson or Wallace. Love for you guys going to the game to see the first pick six of the year. This game feels like the Browns a few years ago when Johnny Football started. 
looking for Beasley to have a day this Sunday. Love to see him get 10 targets. 
Bills are staring at 8-3! Love it!

[Zerovoltz]

5 hours ago, Logic said:

Now that's the same Josh Allen that you said on the Orange Mane message board that you're not a fan of and you find to be highly inaccurate, right?

Just trying to keep The Troll Report straight.

....I didn't say I was NOT A FAN....I said I remained skeptical and that his accuracy concerns me still.  I talk about him being fun to watch and that he is improving.  Nothing that I haven't said here.  

[Warcodered]

 

[Tesla03]

6 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said:

these are the dumbest types of posts. 

 

how? Look around, the AFC might have three 10 win teams all fighting for the last playoff spot. 

 

The denver game is the most important game of the season. end of discussion 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

44 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said:

....I didn't say I was NOT A FAN....I said I remained skeptical and that his accuracy concerns me still.  I talk about him being fun to watch and that he is improving.  Nothing that I haven't said here.  

 

What you said onThe Orange Mane message board, 06-30-2019, 10:35 PM

Zerovoltz, "Trusted Analyst"

"Josh Allen (the QB) has been getting a lot of run this offseason as a guy to watch....big improvement coming etc etc. I wouldn't have drafted Josh Allen, and I was dissappointed that hte Broncos passed him becasue I thought he would suck....You all took of course took Chubb...passing both Allen and Rosen.  I haven't seen much of anyone here talking about it, but was it a mistake to pass on Allen?  He's fun to watch play....his accuracy sucks..but he can run and scramble. The roster around him wasn't all that good but he's never been accurate. At this point....knowing now that Keenum sucked, and you have Flacco.....would you rather have taken Allen in 2018 or still gone with Chubb?"

 

I leave it as an exercise for the reader to determine if "I thought he would suck" "his accuracy sucks" and "he's never been accurate" is reasonably captured as "NOT A FAN".

 

Don't see anything about him improving or "concerns" or "skeptical"

 

Just keepin' it real

 

[Stank_Nasty]

17 minutes ago, Tesla03 said:

 

how? Look around, the AFC might have three 10 win teams all fighting for the last playoff spot. 

 

The denver game is the most important game of the season. end of discussion 

No. It’s not even close to the end of the discussion. It’s a silly comment. It’s especially funny that you talk about it as such an absolute. 

Edited November 22, 2019 by Stank_Nasty

[Franco_92]

If you think accuracy is Josh Allen's problem it's been a calendar year since you last watched Josh Allen with any intent to analyze what you're seeing.

[boater]

33 minutes ago, Tesla03 said:

The denver game is the most important game of the season. end of discussion 

You can't end a discussion here. You're not our parent.

[Zerovoltz]

36 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

What you said onThe Orange Mane message board, 06-30-2019, 10:35 PM

Zerovoltz, "Trusted Analyst"

"Josh Allen (the QB) has been getting a lot of run this offseason as a guy to watch....big improvement coming etc etc. I wouldn't have drafted Josh Allen, and I was dissappointed that hte Broncos passed him becasue I thought he would suck....You all took of course took Chubb...passing both Allen and Rosen.  I haven't seen much of anyone here talking about it, but was it a mistake to pass on Allen?  He's fun to watch play....his accuracy sucks..but he can run and scramble. The roster around him wasn't all that good but he's never been accurate. At this point....knowing now that Keenum sucked, and you have Flacco.....would you rather have taken Allen in 2018 or still gone with Chubb?"

 

I leave it as an exercise for the reader to determine if "I thought he would suck" "his accuracy sucks" and "he's never been accurate" is reasonably captured as "NOT A FAN".

 

Don't see anything about him improving or "concerns" or "skeptical"

 

Just keepin' it real

 

Yes....where does it say I am not a fan?  Also...I made that post on June 30th.  In the same thread, once games started....this is also me "Allen looks to have taken some real strides....he's looked pretty good so far....."  Sept 16th.

 

and " he's young and has at least taken a step in the right direction.." October 18th.

 

and on November 8th 

11-08-2019, 08:36 PM

Last 4 games. Allen 7 passing TDS vs 1 INT. He does seem to be incrementally improving. Still a somewhat low comp % on the year but it’s up from last year. Looking more like it might have been a mistake to pass on him as the weeks go by.

 

Whenever I have given my thoughts on Allen here....I have said that I like him and that it has always concerned me about his comp % (yes Transplant...I have read your mathematical novel about this topic)  I have stated that I am a fan who remains skeptical.  I have not said anything different there....and I have demonstrated that I am seeing improvement and that my initial evaluation is looking more and more off.  I have said as much here.....and have said I have been rooting for Allen to prove me and all the analytics people wrong.  

 

 

 

 

[Do The Reich Thing]

Me thinky this is our home blowout of the year. Perfect scenario with a rookie qb

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, Zerovoltz said:

Yes....where does it say I am not a fan? 

 

I think, if someone says “I thought he would suck” “his (main attribute for position) sucks” I don’t think it’s a stretch to summarize that take as “not a fan”

 

1 hour ago, Zerovoltz said:

Also...I made that post on June 30th.  In the same thread, once games started....this is also me "Allen looks to have taken some real strides....he's looked pretty good so far....."  Sept 16th.

 

and " he's young and has at least taken a step in the right direction.." October 18th.

 

and on November 8th 

11-08-2019, 08:36 PM

Last 4 games. Allen 7 passing TDS vs 1 INT. He does seem to be incrementally improving. Still a somewhat low comp % on the year but it’s up from last year. Looking more like it might have been a mistake to pass on him as the weeks go by.

 

Whenever I have given my thoughts on Allen here....I have said that I like him and that it has always concerned me about his comp % (yes Transplant...I have read your mathematical novel about this topic)  I have stated that I am a fan who remains skeptical.  I have not said anything different there....and I have demonstrated that I am seeing improvement and that my initial evaluation is looking more and more off.  I have said as much here.....and have said I have been rooting for Allen to prove me and all the analytics people wrong.  

 

Well, I’m certainly hoping Allen proves you and all the analytics people wrong.

 

No shame in changing your mind one way or the other, I just think you should own your starting position as well as whether/how you’ve changed it.  You weren’t telling the whole story here.

 

And by the way, no offense, but don’t hou think being on another team’s fan board so much that you’re tagged as some kind of super-use is a little strange?

[Zerovoltz]

7 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I think, if someone says “I thought he would suck” “his (main attribute for position) sucks” I don’t think it’s a stretch to summarize that take as “not a fan”

 

 

Well, I’m certainly hoping Allen proves you and all the analytics people wrong.

 

No shame in changing your mind one way or the other, I just think you should own your starting position as well as whether/how you’ve changed it.  You weren’t telling the whole story here.

 

And by the way, no offense, but don’t hou think being on another team’s fan board so much that you’re tagged as some kind of super-use is a little strange?

 

Of course it is.  But.....I have a job where I work 12 shifts at a time, and I monitor a certain computer system that doesn't have all that many problems, but when it does, they need someone around that understands it and can fix it....and so I have A LOT of down time at work that goes by really slow unless I do things like "troll" message boards and what not.  So even at that...yeah...you could say it's an odd way spend the time...but given the choice of taking my kids to the park or having dinner with my wife etc etc...I'd be doing those things instead of this.....the circumstances are such that I have time to kill and this is one of the ways I do it.

[Dr. Who]

4 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said:

 

Of course it is.  But.....I have a job where I work 12 shifts at a time, and I monitor a certain computer system that doesn't have all that many problems, but when it does, they need someone around that understands it and can fix it....and so I have A LOT of down time at work that goes by really slow unless I do things like "troll" message boards and what not.  So even at that...yeah...you could say it's an odd way spend the time...but given the choice of taking my kids to the park or having dinner with my wife etc etc...I'd be doing those things instead of this.....the circumstances are such that I have time to kill and this is one of the ways I do it.

Don't worry. Lots of weird folks here. You fit right in.

[Jamie Nails]

1 hour ago, Do The Reich Thing said:

Me thinky this is our home blowout of the year. Perfect scenario with a rookie qb

 

Allen has been in the league for 4 years. Just his 3rd start, however 

[Augie]

1 hour ago, Jamie Nails said:

 

Allen has been in the league for 4 years. Just his 3rd start, however 

I find this “new math” very confusing.

[billsfan89]

7 hours ago, cd1 said:

 

Funny, that sounds so familiar...

 

Oh yeah regarding those pesky (losing) Browns!  

 

The Browns game was away and the Browns were a talented but underachieving team. That game was a toss up in my opinion. The Broncos are 3-7 and a team whose talent level reflects their record add in the fact this is a home game and this is an absolute must win.