Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Example number 50 of why passing yards stat is meaningless and has no correlation to winning https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28102402/falcons-quarterback-matt-ryan-hits-top-10-all-pass-yards 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 This is just a result of the way the game has changed in fairness. But Matt Ryan is right there with Philip Rivers for me as the best QB currently in the league not to win a Superbowl. He has had a very good career. If only Kyle Shanahan had just run the ***** ball...... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 47 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: This is just a result of the way the game has changed in fairness. But Matt Ryan is right there with Philip Rivers for me as the best QB currently in the league not to win a Superbowl. He has had a very good career. If only Kyle Shanahan had just run the ***** ball...... Lol. He chokes. He is a great talent but shrinks in the moment 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 53 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: This is just a result of the way the game has changed in fairness. But Matt Ryan is right there with Philip Rivers for me as the best QB currently in the league not to win a Superbowl. He has had a very good career. If only Kyle Shanahan had just run the ***** ball...... with decent play calling the Falcons beat NE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 54 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: This is just a result of the way the game has changed in fairness. But Matt Ryan is right there with Philip Rivers for me as the best QB currently in the league not to win a Superbowl. He has had a very good career. If only Kyle Shanahan had just run the ***** ball...... Right as well if he had a defense. If he played on Pats we might call him the best. If Brady was on Falcons he might have some trouble as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said: Example number 50 of why passing yards stat is meaningless and has no correlation to winning https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28102402/falcons-quarterback-matt-ryan-hits-top-10-all-pass-yards You must have been a massive Tyrod fan and wonder why he's not starting for a team right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 26 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: with decent play calling the Falcons beat NE. There was also that whole fiasco with the Atlanta headset malfunctioning, right before the Pats**** started their amazing, unbelievable, no one has ever seen anything like it comeback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: This is just a result of the way the game has changed in fairness. But Matt Ryan is right there with Philip Rivers for me as the best QB currently in the league not to win a Superbowl. He has had a very good career. If only Kyle Shanahan had just run the ***** ball...... Matt ryan matt Stafford phillip rivers...throw for 4000 heck even 5000 every year and it means nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Hebert19 said: Matt ryan matt Stafford phillip rivers...throw for 4000 heck even 5000 every year and it means nothing. I don't buy that if you don't win a ring your career means nothing. Matt Ryan and Philip Rivers have had very fine careers and have been the best of the rest just short of the elite bunch for a long while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Matt Ryan 109-84 Phillip Rivers 127-102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I don't buy that if you don't win a ring your career means nothing. Matt Ryan and Philip Rivers have had very fine careers and have been the best of the rest just short of the elite bunch for a long while. The point is does 4000 yards get you anything? No. 9 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Matt Ryan 109-84 Phillip Rivers 127-102 Win percentage up to date. Josh allen .571 Phillip rivers .565 Matt ryan .555 Matt stafford .457 Soooooo. What does this have to do with anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: The point is does 4000 yards get you anything? No. Win percentage up to date. Josh allen .571 Phillip rivers .565 Matt ryan .555 Matt stafford .457 Soooooo. What does this have to do with anything? I was looking at a stat that I thought might be more relevant than their passing yards and honestly there is a significant difference between them and the players that are considered great in their era. Though weirdly enough Eli Manning is worse but still has two rings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: The point is does 4000 yards get you anything? No. It gets you a pretty good career. I just don't agree that anyone without a ring is a waste. Or was Dan Marino a waste? Jim Kelly? Yes, ultimately the name of the game is to win and to try and win a Superbowl. But even if he never does that Matt Ryan has had a fine career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Example number 50 of why passing yards stat is meaningless and has no correlation to winning https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28102402/falcons-quarterback-matt-ryan-hits-top-10-all-pass-yards I look forward to number 51 this was a riveting topic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: It gets you a pretty good career. I just don't agree that anyone without a ring is a waste. Or was Dan Marino a waste? Jim Kelly? Yes, ultimately the name of the game is to win and to try and win a Superbowl. But even if he never does that Matt Ryan has had a fine career. I'm with you. But never mind ring. Matt ryan has been to playoffs once in last 4 years. Same as tyrod taylor and Blake Bortles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 21 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: I'm with you. But never mind ring. Matt ryan has been to playoffs once in last 4 years. Same as tyrod taylor and Blake Bortles. Twice actually. They made in in 2016 and 2017. After this season they will have made the playoffs in half of Matt Ryan's 12 seasons despite playing in the same division as a first ballot HoF QB and possible HoF coach (bounty gate may keep him out to be fair). Matt Ryan has had a really, really good career. That ring that they should have won in 2016 would have been nice and a just reward but alas it wasn't to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 IMO Matt Ryan is good but also a bit over rated. He just doesn’t have that IT factor or killer instinct. His teams have been loaded with talent and routinely grossly under perform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Hebert19 said: Matt ryan matt Stafford phillip rivers...throw for 4000 heck even 5000 every year and it means nothing. and that is what I don't want to have Allen become. I prefer Allen to be more like Big Ben...Be the game manager and don't give the game away. The Bills should be looking for a North South runner in next years draft. I think they missed a great opportunity in not going after Drake or Carlos Hyde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) Imagine being up 28-3 late in the SB and losing only to never get back Brutal Edited November 18, 2019 by TheFunPolice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 I’m sorry but how does this prove passing yards is meaningless? I’m not a huge passing yards advocate either. As a starter, he is 104-78. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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