stevestojan Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, TuelTime said: I'm surprised that more incidents like this aren't followed up by law enforcement. This and the elbow from Gronk were assaults that occurred with a weapon with very clear video evidence. If these guys assault women on video their careers are over, but they can hit each other with weapons on live TV and no criminal charges come of it? I also understand it is a violent game, but its not like being on the field and not in the stands should exempt players from being held accountable for assaulting someone. Penalties and fines are cool and all but at what point is this criminal? I know for a fact if I had done that to someone and it was on video I would be charged with assault and would likely do time. Careers are over? Let me introduce you to Kareem Hunt. That aside, If the incident that happened last night happened in the parking lot, that’s a felony. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuelTime Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, stevestojan said: Careers are over? Let me introduce you to Kareem Hunt. That aside, If the incident that happened last night happened in the parking lot, that’s a felony. Yeah, its weird that they allow people on TV to get away with crimes when there is slam dunk evidence to convict. Its almost analogous to the porn industry. You can pay a woman to sleep with you as long as its on camera, otherwise its prostitution.. doesn't make a whole lot of sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsmob88 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Damarious Randall ejected for helmet hit on Diontae The whole Myles Garrett situation not just this game he’s been fined in two other games for dirty hits. this defense is ran by Gregg Williams. coincidence???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I would give Rudolf 1 game for his role. Pouncey gets 2. Chickengumbo gets 3. Garrett is out for one year - see you in week 10 of 2020. What I would like to see: None of these player get paid while out and the owners send their salaries to a foundation supporting victims of violence. In addition the owners play the same amounts for their team penalty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, billsmob88 said: Damarious Randall ejected for helmet hit on Diontae The whole Myles Garrett situation not just this game he’s been fined in two other games for dirty hits. this defense is ran by Gregg Williams. coincidence???? Gregg Williams is with the Jets now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Knew it. There was no way he was coming back this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Peter said: I am not going to read 15 pages on this subject, but I dare say that, if Rudolph did exactly what he did, and Garrett did not swing his helmet, no one would be calling out for Rudolph to be suspended etc. What Rudolph did was like a mosquito pestering you while you are trying to eat dinner. What Garrett did was way over the line . . . especially doing it to a fellow NFLPA member who recently had a serious concussion. With or without the prior concussion, Garrett could have ended Rudolph's career (or even killed him). I was not singling you out per se, I was just commenting on the fact that there is no comparison between what the two guys did, and no justification for what Garrett did. Garrett also is freaking huge and powerful with or without the swinging helmet. What if you are in a state where you do not need to join a union is it okay to make a swing if he exercised his right not to be a member? 24 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: I would give Rudolf 1 game for his role. Pouncey gets 2. Chickengumbo gets 3. Garrett is out for one year - see you in week 10 of 2020. What I would like to see: None of these player get paid while out and the owners send their salaries to a foundation supporting victims of violence. In addition the owners play the same amounts for their team penalty. If I was arbitrator of NFL I'd make sure he came back week 11 just so he could not get a qualifying year next year. Some players hold out most of year and qualify for a year without doing bodily harm in last few seconds of a game! 37 minutes ago, billsmob88 said: Damarious Randall ejected for helmet hit on Diontae The whole Myles Garrett situation not just this game he’s been fined in two other games for dirty hits. this defense is ran by Gregg Williams. coincidence???? Really run by Gregg Williams? How does owner, GM and head coach of JEST think of him working this job on the side. Which side of field does he stand on when JESTS play BROWNIES? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 59 minutes ago, Doc said: Still not injured. I slowed-it-down and yes he hits him, but with just the opening in the helmet and not the dome (he's holding it by the facemask), making it far less injurious. The injury to Tre' is what makes it worse purely on its own, helmet on or not. And again, the fact that Tre' was completely blameless, unaware, and defenseless, whereas Rudolph instigated it and went after Garrett after getting his helmet ripped-off makes his attack worse. Strongly disagree, as I think most would, but we'll just have to agree to disagree I guess. And I'm very much a Bills homer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, TuelTime said: I'm surprised that more incidents like this aren't followed up by law enforcement. This and the elbow from Gronk were assaults that occurred with a weapon with very clear video evidence. If these guys assault women on video their careers are over, but they can hit each other with weapons on live TV and no criminal charges come of it? I also understand it is a violent game, but its not like being on the field and not in the stands should exempt players from being held accountable for assaulting someone. Penalties and fines are cool and all but at what point is this criminal? I know for a fact if I had done that to someone and it was on video I would be charged with assault and would likely do time. Someone typically has to indicate to the police that they want to file charges to start the process. In some states, there's a process the citizen can follow if the police/prosecutors don't pursue charges but I don't know of any state where law enforcement will pursue charges without the cooperation of the victim (some limited exceptions in DV cases) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camisado Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Yeah no from watching this video again, considering Garrett wouldn't get off of Rudolph, I don't think Rudolph should face any consequences. He reacted naturally to someone holding you down. It appears Garrett was clearly trying to instigate. https://youtu.be/_PMHlURlxus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 19 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Strongly disagree, as I think most would, but we'll just have to agree to disagree I guess. And I'm very much a Bills homer. I disagree that most would agree with you. So yes we'll agree to disagree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) Not sure how well this is going to fly, but I'm just going to leave this out here: https://sports.theonion.com/nfl-rescinds-myles-garrett-suspension-after-review-foot-1839896771 Edited November 16, 2019 by Rocky Landing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 8 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Did he or Did he NOT claw and try to rip his helmet off? So you are pissed about him not getting a 15 yard penalty???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Garrett should never be allowed to play football again imo, if he had hit him with the other part of the helmet we could of seen a man dead on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Honestly the helmet swing isn't the scariest part if that incident. The way he ripped the helmet off could have been bad. That's one strong dude and he could have snapped his neck...that was a violent tug at the helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I'm on the same page with Shannon Sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Be honest, how would this board react if someone on the Bills did that to Brady. There's a good chance he would become a legend around here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: yes he will be a member no charges yes suspended Myles starts first Pouncey appeals no arrest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 8 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: back for Bills game of course Maybe he asks for a hearing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, Another Fan said: Be honest, how would this board react if someone on the Bills did that to Brady. There's a good chance he would become a legend around here Ah, No. I mean, if Brady were injured in the course of a football move, Hero for sure. Garrett hurt his own team by getting his ass suspended indefinitely for no good reason at all. That ain't a legend, here or anywhere, that's just a Maroon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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