row_33 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 is this all over yet 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 On 11/15/2019 at 9:28 PM, zonabb said: If you put racism in " " you are intentionally minimizing it, unwilling to accept it as an actual structural problem in this "country." Yeah I put country in " " because I think that pride and bling loyalty to a geography is a joke made worse by the romanticism attached to it that doesn't show it for what it is, a county found by genocidal racists. But anyway, calling racism oveblown only doubles down on that and surely comes from the comfort of your white privilege. And you end it by saying there are a few racist nut jobs out there to imply, that due to what you think are a small number, that racism is overblown. And there are also waaay more than a few bad cops. Every PD in this region has bad apples. Let's see.... just this two weeks we've got a Lewiston cop taking pictures of a woman getting dressed and resigning (today) and a sheriff pimping his wife out in a movie theatre parking low. You also have a Tonawanda cop driving drunk and getting in an accident coming home from a police party last year, a cop beating the hell out of a Bills fan in the parking lot multiple cops shooting unarmed people in Buffalo, a few in the back in the last year.. and that's off the top of my head in 30 seconds and I rarely read the paper or listen to the radio. This board is over run with some of the most unenlightened rubes around. Really? Care to elaborate? 1 hour ago, row_33 said: is this all over yet No, not even close. this keeps Kapernick "relevant" for another few years, certainly makes some Nike adds execs thrilled that is for sure. Wonder when the commercial will be coming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 hours ago, wppete said: https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/11/17/jay-z-calls-colin-kaepernick-workout-publicity-stunt Sources: Jay-Z 'Disappointed' Colin Kaepernick Turned NFL Workout into 'Publicity Stunt' SHEMAR WOODS NOV 17, 2019 Colin Kaepernick's unanticipated decision to change Saturday's planned NFL workout let down one of his biggest supporters: Jay-Z. According to a source, the rapper-turned-businessman is "disappointed with Colin's actions and believes he turned a legitimate workout into a publicity stunt." Kaepernick requested to shoot a Nike ad as a part of Saturday's workout, featuring the quarterback and mentioning all the NFL teams present at the workout. The NFL agreed, but Kaepernick informed the league of his decision to change the location of the workout on Saturday at 2:30 p.m., moving the event from the Falcons' practice facility to Charles R. Drew High School in Riverdale, Ga. The location change dampened attendance, but a few NFL scouts reportedly followed Kaepernick to the new workout location. Hue Jackson, who was selected to lead the original NFL workout, backed out and returned to the airport. The NFL workout, originally scheduled for 3 p.m., was designed to showcase Kapernick and provide the exiled quarterback an opportunity to display his football readiness and desire to return to the NFL. Kaepernick threw to a host of receivers and proved that he still has the talent to play. "From the outset, Mr. Kaepernick requested a legitimate process and from the outset the NFL league office has not provided one," his agent, Jeff Nalley, and attorney, Ben Meiselas, said in a statement. "Most recently, the NFL has demanded that as a precondition to the workout, Mr. Kaepernick sign an unusual liability waiver that addresses employment-related issues and rejected the standard liability waiver from physical injury proposed by Mr. Kaepernick's representatives." Jay-Z has been vocal in support of Kaepernick, who has gone unsigned since the end of the 2016 NFL season. That support was called into question before the start of the NFL season, when the NFL and Jay-Z formed a partnership that allows him to help manage entertainment ventures, including the Super Bowl halftime show, and help manage the league’s community activism efforts. In a news conference to announce the deal, Jay-Z said, “I think we’ve moved past kneeling. I think it’s time to go on to actionable items,“ sparking widespread backlash. But reports surfaced this week that Jay-Z had been working behind the scenes to help influence the NFL to set up Saturday's workout. Kaepernick has not played in the NFL since Jan. 1, 2017. He opted out of his contract with the 49ers in March 2017 and has not tried out for an NFL team since becoming a free agent. "I've been in shape and ready for this for 3 years, can't wait to see the head coaches and GMs on Saturday," Kaepernick tweeted about the workout on Tuesday. This falls directly in line with what I felt the other day after hearing and watching the situation unfold. Posted this on Sunday morning. Quote The venue situation. So an hour and a half before the workout CK says he's not doing it at the Atlanta facility, that he is switching it to a high school an hour or so away? PFT, Florio and his cronies, would have you believe it was due to the NFL trying to set Kaep up with a waiver. The truth is it was a standard waiver that anyone coming from college would have to sign to participate in the same type of workout. Then this morning Schefter reports it was due to Kaep not being able to have his own film crew in there. Whatever excuse he wants to use, he purposely cost himself today. I have no doubt it was intentional and it obviously alienated Hue Jackson along with 17 of the teams' representatives who were going to be at the Atlanta location. For someone saying he would do whatever to get back in the NFL, he sure doesn't act like it. He acts like a man who thinks he can assert dominance over someone he claims to be seeking employment from. That's not going to work out well for him, nor would it work out well for you and I if we tried the same in our own situations. Now I will get to what I took from his speech at the end. He didn't take any questions, but only made a statement. First off, I look at everything. I am totally observant and aware of everything when looking at things like this. Before I pressed play, before I even listened to a word he had to say, I looked at the still frame. He and his group looked more like militants at a rally than someone trying to interview for a job. After that I pressed play. He claimed something about transparency. What is that? There were still going to be media to report, there were going to be 3 times the amount of NFL reps there, there would have been a former NFL coach running the workout, and the workout was going to be filmed. What transparency is he talking about? To me he sounds like someone who wants to control everything and the light with which is portrayed at all costs. Then he talks about the people at the workout being "attacked" for the last 3 years and that they continue to be "attacked" even now. To me he is trying to assert himself as some kind of messiah, a leader that people are suffering wrongly for and he plays off of this. I relate it to someone trying to take a form almost that of Christ, talking about the suffering that his followers have and are facing. He, again presenting himself as the head of something, thanks them for their service, and for presenting the "truth" to others. What "truth" would that be? This would be the "truth" that he and his representation want to portray as the "truth" to all of those in attendance or would watch elsewhere. He then continues to play the victim card saying he showed everyone today why he should be in the NFL, but the people there "know why" he's not. Again, he has already treated these people as servants and thanks them for their service to his "truth", now he is projecting himself as a martyr. Then, with 8 teams' representatives present out of the possible 25 teams' representatives he could of been in front of, he begins to attack the same teams he claims to be looking for employment from. He tells them they all need to stop running from the "truth", his "truth" that he is a victim of an unjust treatment. He also tells them to stop "running from the people". Again, it is basic psychology with this statement. He has already asserted himself as some type of leader in the midst of being martyred, thanked people for bearing the suffering that has come with following him, and now he is building them back up by including them as those whom the NFL and the owners are running from, trying to puff them up, give them a sense of power, and justification. He then continues with the thanking and mentioning of the people there and not there, promising to keep them informed and included in everything that happens from that point forward. Again, building them up by giving them a sense of inclusion in everything going on. Then he throws out there the big "IF" quite intentionally, placing a distinct emphasis on that word. Again, he is posturing himself as a victim and trying to drive his "truth" home that he is being martyred. He finishes it off by saying "the ball is in their court" at the end and saying "we're ready to go". Again, the using of "we" is purposely done to give those who have been with him a sense of inclusion in all of this and puff them up once again with his final statement. After watching it multiple times I genuinely believe this whole thing is more about posturing and appearances than it is actually football. He seems like he is intentionally trying to continue to drive the wedge between he and the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Hopefully Jay-Z learns from this mistake. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Seems fairly obvious to me that, when taking all factors into account, the 32 teams that chose the road more traveled made the right call all along. On 11/17/2019 at 11:03 AM, MAJBobby said: Right because their fan base doesn’t care about the best product possible on the field and have some deep hatred for this guy. Dear Major Bobby, Some fans likely hate him. Some fans likely don't like him. Some fans likely like him, and some fans likely like LIKE him. Signed, Human Nature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 On 11/17/2019 at 12:00 PM, Binghamton Beast said: LOL...well, if Schefter said it. Did Schefter also say he is better than starters around the league like I was specifically replying to? ....sorry.....I'll wait for LaCanfora...he NEVER misses......hell I'm thinking that with being Goodell's version of "All My Children", that Susan Lucci may weigh in....SMH..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 i wish i was cynical enough to have predicted he'd turn this into a total fiasco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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