BringBackOrton Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: True. However, you should also say and include: As an overall body of work this season, Allen hasn’t been very bad. I really don’t think it can be debated... Some people need to be reminded of that as some are delusional and over the top on the negative too. Andy Dalton hasn’t been very bad his whole career. Neither has Ryan Tannehill. Excellent news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Last week I was telling people to calm down after they started saying we were challenging for the division when the Pats lost, this week debating why Josh Allen isn't Vince Young fml 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Just now, BringBackOrton said: Andy Dalton hasn’t been very bad his whole career. Neither has Ryan Tannehill. Excellent news. But Dalton and Tannehill didn't improve. Allen has. Maybe he won't continue to improve. I'm not sure why anyone would presume to know either way. If you look at his short career 4 games at a time you will see consistent improvement at every step. The only time I've been really nervous is after the Pats game because it was a total regression on everything he'd learned but that turned out to be an outlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Entire McDermott Presser https://www.buffalobills.com/video/sean-mcdermott-learn-through-experiences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Just now, HappyDays said: But Dalton and Tannehill didn't improve. Allen has. Maybe he won't continue to improve. I'm not sure why anyone would presume to know either way. If you look at his short career 4 games at a time you will see consistent improvement at every step. The only time I've been really nervous is after the Pats game because it was a total regression on everything he'd learned but that turned out to be an outlier. Oh they absolutely did. I posted the stats up thread. Dalton and Tanny both made strides between years 1-3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Sullivan is a jackass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Oh they absolutely did. I posted the stats up thread. Dalton and Tanny both made strides between years 1-3 Yes, and then they plateaued or regressed. Allen might just keep improving. So I don't know what the discussion is about at this point. No one knows anything about how he'll end up. Until he stops improving he isn't going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: Yes, and then they plateaued or regressed. Allen might just keep improving. So I don't know what the discussion is about at this point. No one knows anything about how he'll end up. Until he stops improving he isn't going anywhere. In the last decade, what QB improved drastically from who they were in year two to present? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: In the last decade, what QB improved drastically from who they were in year two to present? Yep. who suddenly GOT IT and erased their deficiencies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: In the last decade, what QB improved drastically from who they were in year two to present? Ben rothlisberger. Drew Brees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: Ben rothlisberger. Drew Brees. Stats please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Ben rothlisberger. Drew Brees. That was 15 years ago hombre. The NFL has changed just a bit since 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Entire McDermott Presser https://www.buffalobills.com/video/sean-mcdermott-learn-through-experiences I’d like to know who the reporter was at the 7:55 mark. He was very vague with his questions and you could tell McDermott was getting frustrated with him as he started giving the reporter short answers, then cut the conference short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I rarely side with Sully, but I think this is a legitimate question. Either Allen is an improvement, or he's not. Asking the coach what makes him an improvement is not an unfair question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Ben rothlisberger. Drew Brees. Prescott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said: That was 15 years ago hombre. The NFL has changed just a bit since 2004. What rule changes in the NFL have eliminated the ability to improve? This doesn't make any sense. And honestly Allen is a rare case. I'm not just saying that because he's on the Bills. Before we drafted him I thought whatever team took him would need to sit him for 2 years based on his history at the position. I wouldn't bet on him becoming a top 10 QB but if he keeps trending up I'm not looking elsewhere. Might as well enjoy the ride. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 6 hours ago, IDBillzFan said: I've seen goose schitt that is more dignified than almost all media journalism, so that's not saying much. Jerry Sullivan's job should be to fill John Wawrow's empty scotch tumbler. Period. And Tim Graham should be in charge of ice. Graham has done a number of good feature pieces when he was at TBN and some good articles at the Athletic. JMO of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Something we havent seen much this year are roll outs on broken plays w/a wr wide open downfield to be hit so he can be off to the races. I feel like that happened relatively often w/tyrod. Just busted or abandoned coverages w the wr just following the qb downfield. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, notwoz said: but I think this is a legitimate question A legitimate question would be to ask McDermott why the offense hasn't improved after 2 years. Asking McDermott about a specific cherry picked stat for a rookie vs a veteran is not legitimate. It is basically just trolling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Just now, gobills1212 said: Something we havent seen much this year are roll outs on broken plays w/a wr wide open downfield to be hit so he can be off to the races. I feel like that happened relatively often w/tyrod. Just busted or abandoned coverages w the wr just following the qb downfield. I know you're referencing broken plays, but TBH that was play design differences between Roman & Daboll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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