SoCal Deek Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 The House had two weeks of public testimony from hand picked ‘witnesses’ for the prosecution under oath during which none of them revealed that they’d actually witnessed anything or knew of any crimes that were committed by anyone and yet....it goes on and on and on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: The House had two weeks of public testimony from hand picked ‘witnesses’ for the prosecution under oath during which none of them revealed that they’d actually witnessed anything or knew of any crimes that were committed by anyone and yet....it goes on and on and on. Ha! Like Sondland who had to change his testimony and said there was a quid pro quo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Just now, Tiberius said: Ha! Like Sondland who had to change his testimony and said there was a quid pro quo! Which, was Upon cross examination was simply his opinion. Which means absolutely NOTHING! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Which, was Upon cross examination was simply his opinion. Which means absolutely NOTHING! No, he was carrying out Trumps will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoCal Deek Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Just now, Tiberius said: No, he was carrying out Trumps will. Well he must be one hell of a mind reader then because NOBODY ON THIS PLANET told him what Trump’s Will was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: Well he must be one hell of a mind reader then because NOBODY ON THIS PLANET told him what Trump’s Will was. No, he was his personal ambassador bought and paid for doing his bidding. He admitted it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: No, he was his personal ambassador bought and paid for doing his bidding. He admitted it! Oh come on! I’ll accept you as a Trump hater. You’re entitled to that opinion. But his pathetic testimony is done and on the record. It’s over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Here's the poll on impeachment I'd like to see. I want to know the ratio between... 1. Those who voted against Trump in 2016 but who want to vote for him in 2020, and... 2. Those who voted for Trump in 2016 but who now support impeachment and removal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Oh come on! I’ll accept you as a Trump hater. You’re entitled to that opinion. But his pathetic testimony is done and on the record. It’s over. you enjoy responding to someone who doesn't care at all what you think? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Oh come on! I’ll accept you as a Trump hater. You’re entitled to that opinion. But his pathetic testimony is done and on the record. It’s over. The military aid was held up for a favor Trump wanted to help him in our domestic politics. Just admit it you don't care because it's Trump. He could shoot someone and you'd say they deserved it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Here it is, available for download from the Oversight Committee website. The bad news is it’s 123 pages long and no one’s going to read it. The good news is that the executive summary is just four pages and no one’s going to read all of Schiff’s report either. That one has apparently been delivered to the Capitol for review by Intel Committee members as I write this but isn’t available online yet. I’ll update with a link once it is. The arguments in the GOP executive summary are familiar by now, just as Schiff’s arguments will be. The phrase “unelected bureaucrats” pops up a bunch, e.g., “They are trying to impeach President Trump because some unelected bureaucrats chafed at an elected President’s ‘outside the beltway’ approach to diplomacy.” “Outside the beltway” is an … interesting way to describe making private attorney Rudy Giuliani the president’s key liaison to Ukraine instead of, say, Mike Pompeo or Bill Taylor, the acting U.S. ambassador to the country. That’s the heaviest lift for Republicans in the summary, trying to frame Giuliani’s strange role in all this as Trump somehow “shaking things up” in Washington or whatever instead of deputizing one of his most trusted cronies with a sensitive task like squeezing the Ukrainian government to investigate the Democratic frontrunner for president. If you were going to do something as questionable as that, you’d want a buddy in charge too instead of one of those less trustworthy “unelected bureaucrats” who might tell on you. This is a smart point by the GOP, though, one which various witnesses were forced to acknowledge: That doesn’t directly contradict the Democrats’ narrative. It can be true, and probably is, that Trump approved previous military aid because those hawkish “unelected bureaucrats” lobbied him to do so and then held later military aid because he wanted to squeeze Zelensky on Burisma. But it’s useful to remind the public after two years of “he’s a Russian stooge!” messaging from critics that he helped arm Ukraine against Putin and obviously didn’t view the country exclusively as a means to his own ends, whatever Gordon Sondland might believe. .https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2019/12/02/nunes-jordan-release-gop-staff-report-prebutting-schiffs-report-impeachment/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_term=nunes-jordan-release-gop-staff-report-prebutting-schiffs-report-impeachment&utm_content=0&utm_campaign=PostPromoterPro 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, B-Man said: Here it is, available for download from the Oversight Committee website. The bad news is it’s 123 pages long and no one’s going to read it. The good news is that the executive summary is just four pages and no one’s going to read all of Schiff’s report either. That one has apparently been delivered to the Capitol for review by Intel Committee members as I write this but isn’t available online yet. I’ll update with a link once it is. The arguments in the GOP executive summary are familiar by now, just as Schiff’s arguments will be. The phrase “unelected bureaucrats” pops up a bunch, e.g., “They are trying to impeach President Trump because some unelected bureaucrats chafed at an elected President’s ‘outside the beltway’ approach to diplomacy.” “Outside the beltway” is an … interesting way to describe making private attorney Rudy Giuliani the president’s key liaison to Ukraine instead of, say, Mike Pompeo or Bill Taylor, the acting U.S. ambassador to the country. That’s the heaviest lift for Republicans in the summary, trying to frame Giuliani’s strange role in all this as Trump somehow “shaking things up” in Washington or whatever instead of deputizing one of his most trusted cronies with a sensitive task like squeezing the Ukrainian government to investigate the Democratic frontrunner for president. If you were going to do something as questionable as that, you’d want a buddy in charge too instead of one of those less trustworthy “unelected bureaucrats” who might tell on you. This is a smart point by the GOP, though, one which various witnesses were forced to acknowledge: That doesn’t directly contradict the Democrats’ narrative. It can be true, and probably is, that Trump approved previous military aid because those hawkish “unelected bureaucrats” lobbied him to do so and then held later military aid because he wanted to squeeze Zelensky on Burisma. But it’s useful to remind the public after two years of “he’s a Russian stooge!” messaging from critics that he helped arm Ukraine against Putin and obviously didn’t view the country exclusively as a means to his own ends, whatever Gordon Sondland might believe. .https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2019/12/02/nunes-jordan-release-gop-staff-report-prebutting-schiffs-report-impeachment/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_term=nunes-jordan-release-gop-staff-report-prebutting-schiffs-report-impeachment&utm_content=0&utm_campaign=PostPromoterPro this is why most people are revolted by politics they know what a crock it is, they will pay attention after the conventions, but only so far as they perceive their personal economic interests will be changed by the candidates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dubs Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: It’s truly amazing this is still going on. I’ll get the Dems credit for one thing, they absolutely do not quit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Just now, dubs said: It’s truly amazing this is still going on. I’ll get the Dems credit for one thing, they absolutely do not quit. a demented old bat of a great-aunt is still sitting in front of the TV at her rest home waiting for "the Joker's Wild" starring Jack Barry to come on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, dubs said: It’s truly amazing this is still going on. I’ll get the Dems credit for one thing, they absolutely do not quit. They can't. Their own base would eat them if they did. Which is what happens when you feed that base lies for three years about Nazis in the street and a Trump/Putin conspiracy. They're going to be destroyed from within by their own prog-fascist base. And it'll be a joy to watch. **************** 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (Maybe DR and I are the same poster - ever think of that PPP?) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 29 minutes ago, dubs said: It’s truly amazing this is still going on. I’ll get the Dems credit for one thing, they absolutely do not quit. What else can they do, Trump is desperately trying to use his power in foreign policy to steal the next elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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