Kevinpop Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) Let's get this straight.... McDermott's directive was to stall our own momentum after Allen throws two darts against a Cleveland "prevent defense" by huddling up, run 30 seconds off the clock, and settling for the game tying 53 yard field goal on the foot of Stephen Hauschka? I have always questioned McDermott's time management skills and this further underscores his inability to handle the clock during a big moment. Folks- this is the Dick Jauron conservative mentality all over again. How would a competent coach like Bellecheck and the Patriots have handled the last 1:44 left and 1 timeout left in the game? In a much more efficient and organized manner, and would have won the game! Edited November 11, 2019 by Kevinpop 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trey Roberts Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I sort of understand the idea of playing for the field goal and winning in overtime. But they were marching and moving the ball well. You have to send the message to your QB that you believe in him to win it NOW, not in OT. They played scared football and sent a message that they didn’t believe Josh could deliver in the moment. They might erode Josh’s confidence by teaching him to play Tyrod ball. They can teach ball security while at the same time allowing Josh to sling it. And I’m afraid they might ruin what makes him a potentially good QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I would have been happy with a FG. But we really should have tried to get closer instead of wasting time. Especially since HauschMoney missed a chip shot earlier in the game and one against the Eagles. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Trey Roberts said: I sort of understand the idea of playing for the field goal and winning in overtime. But they were marching and moving the ball well. You have to send the message to your QB that you believe in him to win it NOW, not in OT. They played scared football and sent a message that they didn’t believe Josh could deliver in the moment. They might erode Josh’s confidence by teaching him to play Tyrod ball. They can teach ball security while at the same time allowing Josh to sling it. And I’m afraid they might ruin what makes him a potentially good QB. How do you sort of understand stalling on the 35 yard line and playing for a 53 yard field goal when you have 49 seconds and a timeout left? There’s zero excuse for it. It’s getting to be a disturbing trend happening with McDermott 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 you play to win and kick the FG when necessary. With OT only 10 minutes it's more difficult to win that way 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: I would have been happy with a FG. But we really should have tried to get closer instead of wasting time. Especially since HauschMoney missed a chip shot earlier in the game and one against the Eagles. isn't that settling for OT, which can be a crap shoot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, nucci said: you play to win and kick the FG when necessary. With OT only 10 minutes it's more difficult to win that way Right. Josh hasn't thrown a pick since Tennessee. Try to get closer, to score a TD, and if it doesn't work, odds are you still have the ball and are closer for Hauschka anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Allen gets a pass deflected and Singletary makes the bone headed attempt to catch it for a loss. Near disaster. If I recall the next play Singletary fails to get out of bounds. Then the next play is run without taking the timeout and Allen tosses up and afterthought effort at a fly route down the sideline. And that was all the coach’s fault? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 21 minutes ago, Kevinpop said: Let's get this straight.... McDermott's directive was to stall our own momentum after Allen throws two darts against a Cleveland "prevent defense" by huddling up, run 30 seconds off the clock, and settling for the game tying 53 yard field goal on the foot of Stephen Hauschka? I have always questioned McDermott's time management skills and this further underscores his inability to handle to clock during a big moment. Folks- this is the Dick Jauron conservative mentality all over again. How would a competent coach like Bellecheck and the Patriots have handled the last 1:44 left and 1 timeout left in the game? In a much more efficient and organized manner, and would have won the game! Time management and time outs were not good enough, conversative play calling on both sides of ball in final two drives were Jauron JR level. I have been saying since he was first hired that the guy is a Dick Jauron clone and you better not be counting on him to out coach the other side for wins. Like why we're they playing prevent defense on that final drive? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said: isn't that settling for OT, which can be a crap shoot? Who said anything about settling. I was thinking as we tried to get closer we may have very well gotten a TD. Why does it have to be one or the other? And I'd take a crap shoot over a loss any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Josh needs to put his sack out there and go AGAINST what the coaches want, and make it work. Do that once or twice and he earns the benefit of the doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 hour ago, CaptnCoke11 said: How do you sort of understand stalling on the 35 yard line and playing for a 53 yard field goal when you have 49 seconds and a timeout left? There’s zero excuse for it. It’s getting to be a disturbing trend happening with McDermott Its not like we clocked it - we ran a play. I think a timeout might have been smart though. Think through what you want to do, and execute. Can use the middle of the field and clock it and assume 20 seconds off. From there you can run either sidelines or EZ plays, or a single over the middle type play to get you to the preferred hash, and maybe tack on 5-10 more yards and clock it for the kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said: Josh needs to put his sack out there and go AGAINST what the coaches want, and make it work. Do that once or twice and he earns the benefit of the doubt. How do you know that he didn't it? What if that was actually his call on third down? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trey Roberts Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: How do you sort of understand stalling on the 35 yard line and playing for a 53 yard field goal when you have 49 seconds and a timeout left? There’s zero excuse for it. It’s getting to be a disturbing trend happening with McDermott I don’t get going for a 53 yard FG by any means. What I do understand (barely) is having faith that you can win it if you can just get it to OT. But yes agree, it’s a disturbing trend with McDermott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: How do you sort of understand stalling on the 35 yard line and playing for a 53 yard field goal when you have 49 seconds and a timeout left? There’s zero excuse for it. It’s getting to be a disturbing trend happening with McDermott Here here! Ya play to win the game not fiddle faddle week in and week out. They even had time to run the freakin ball with a TO left. Browns were so spread out it would of been smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 If it’s true that earlier in the game Josh called an audible to send Brown on a go route and then over threw him when Beasley was wide open on a shorter route, then Josh is as much to blame as Daboll or McDermott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I don’t believe McDermott and Allen are a super bowl winning combination, so they need to move on from one or both. As Leodis McKelvin used to say, “point blank period.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Allen gets a pass deflected and Singletary makes the bone headed attempt to catch it for a loss. Near disaster. If I recall the next play Singletary fails to get out of bounds. Then the next play is run without taking the timeout and Allen tosses up and afterthought effort at a fly route down the sideline. And that was all the coach’s fault? Why not take a timeout after singletary doesn't get out of bounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 After 20 years NOBODY can spell Belichick ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, Chemical said: Why not take a timeout after singletary doesn't get out of bounds? That would’ve been reasonable, but it would’ve been their last TO. I can also understand why he’d want to preserve that TO for the FG attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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