K-9 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: That’s McDermott challenge level bad. so many want to make excuses about his accuracy. What good is a rocket if you don’t know where it’s going. Brady has half of the arm strength and I guarantee his stats on this are far superior. How many attempts of over 30 yards does Brady have the last two seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven-N-Nine Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: How can anyone think a QB who can't come close to hitting on a long throw will be a great QB some day? I read that and almost fell out of my chair. Allen is not headed for greatness, far from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Just now, Real McCoy said: If we do this you minus well draft a QB rd 1 next year. Obviously. Keep picking a QB until you get it right. I don't blame Beane for taking Allen. QB drafting is a crap shoot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven-N-Nine Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, K-9 said: How many attempts of over 30 yards does Brady have the last two seasons? He's 42 years old... Allen is supposedly in his prime athletically. Edited November 11, 2019 by Seven-N-Nine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Will have to dig it up but the stat on hitting on those passes is pretty bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Just now, USABuffaloFan said: Sorry but Barkley has shown that ability and has a few 300 yards games. He doesn't have Josh's talent and all I am saying is are your ready not to be in the playoffs if Josh is your only choice? This is super dramatic. Deep balls are fun, but the don't make or break an offense. I am way more upset about the execution errors; specifically, dropped balls. If we didn't have so many, most of our offensive troubles go away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: How can anyone think a QB who can't come close to hitting on a long throw will be a great QB some day? If Bills lose to the Dolphins on Sunday then I 100% expect Barkley to start vs. the Broncos on 11/24. Josh has all the tools, ran for two TD's yesterday. Hurdled a linebacker last year and did hit a few long balls. Not enough to get us to the playoffs this year though. I believe we can WIN now. Just don't believe Josh can do it except with poor teams. Just not ready yet! O-line too new and WR's too new for his experience level. Josh is not a "BAD" QB, just not great yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I think he honestly put too much air under it. He has a strong enough arm to lower the trajectory and make it more of an accurate play. He wasn't very good with the Deep ball in college as some here have noted so maybe he can have that be a point of emphasis in the offseason cuz I'm afraid it's too late to work on that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: How can anyone think a QB who can't come close to hitting on a long throw will be a great QB some day? If Bills lose to the Dolphins on Sunday then I 100% expect Barkley to start vs. the Broncos on 11/24. I don’t think Allen is the reason they lost yesterday. But one of the reasons he terrified me as a draft pick was we are hoping a guy who never really was dominating consistently in the Mountain West would be a better player in the nfl. mahomes, Watson, Jackson were dominant college players. While being good in college doesn’t prove anything, not being great should worry fans more. But he has plenty of season left to show it so fingers crossed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 What's his accuracy% on throws 20 yard downfield? I bet it's alot better and that IS considered a deep ball Throwing 30-40-50 yards downfield has ALWAYS BEEN A CRAPSHOOT 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: How can anyone think a QB who can't come close to hitting on a long throw will be a great QB some day? If Bills lose to the Dolphins on Sunday then I 100% expect Barkley to start vs. the Broncos on 11/24. THat won’t happen, McDermott and the GM will go down with #17 Just now, Buffalo716 said: What's his accuracy% on throws 20 yard downfield? I bet it's alot better and that IS considered a deep ball Throwing 30-40-50 yards downfield has ALWAYS BEEN A CRAPSHOOT With whom? Not jimbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: How can anyone think a QB who can't come close to hitting on a long throw will be a great QB some day? If Bills lose to the Dolphins on Sunday then I 100% expect Barkley to start vs. the Broncos on 11/24. There is literally zero chance that Josh Allen gets benched due to performance. Zero. And rightfully so. 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Just now, Seven-N-Nine said: He's 42 years old... Thanks for pointing that out. But that doesn’t answer my question. I’m interested in the comparative number of attempts of over 30 air yards from other QBs. I’d guess Brady is very low while others, like Mahomes and Watson are up there with Allen. There is no agenda in my question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, K-9 said: Interesting stat. Where can we find them for every QB in the league? Used D & C, Wilkopedia, CBS Sports, etc... D&C had the number for last year, it has easy to add this year with Zero made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Obviously. Keep picking a QB until you get it right. I don't blame Beane for taking Allen. QB drafting is a crap shoot. He's played 20 games and shown growth from year 1 to 2 though? Can he not do that the rest of this year and big strides next until we call him a bust? Edited November 11, 2019 by Real McCoy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 game-winning last second bomb to Clay in the EZ would have helped matters if Clay had bothered to care at all about catching it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st pete gogolak Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, K-9 said: Interesting stat. Where can we find them for every QB in the league? Yeah, this. It's a meaningless stat unless you compare to league averages. I'm guessing there are QB's who haven't thrown a pass that's travelled 30 yards in the air over the last two years. Maybe it also means that we shouldn't be trying to throw passes that travel 30 yards in the air. Also, does this include Hail Marys? What is the league average on completing Hail Marys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, K-9 said: How many attempts of over 30 yards does Brady have the last two seasons? I’m trying to find it but I’m struggling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, K-9 said: How many attempts of over 30 yards does Brady have the last two seasons? Guarantee he has made at least 10X more than 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven-N-Nine Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gugny said: There is literally zero chance that Josh Allen gets benched due to performance. Zero. And rightfully so. This I agree with. Allen is the starter until Pegula fires McDermott. Edited November 11, 2019 by Seven-N-Nine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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