Billsfan1972 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) Yes I am beating the drum again as I want Allen to succeed and be a star in this league. The last 4 weeks we see Allen's #'s going down. Weeks 1-3 uneven but 240-255 yards passing and since then less & less. The Mantra of mistake free football and less & less passing yards is concerning as I want to see what the Bills have in Josh Allen. He has as others have said looking more & more like check down Tyrod thanks to this coaching staff. Even those preaching at the foot of McD & going on about the Process talk about that 4-5 year plan. Take a look at the Bears & Jaguars & what happened to them. Two teams that thought they had Elite Defenses and only needed a game manager to not make mistakes & take them deep into the future. Bortles is the butt of jokes (watch The Good Place) and not sure where he even is. Truibinsky just put up 125 yards & is close to being benched or labeled a bust!!!! If this is a 4-5 year process don't we need to see who the Bills have in Josh Allen? Edited November 4, 2019 by Billsfan1972 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I think they're trying to get his flaws worked out of him before removing the training wheels and seeing what they have in him. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 We need more from our QB. I hope Beane didn’t give away multiple picks to trade up and draft a quarterback 7th overall to be a guy who can’t beat teams with his arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenboy81 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I wouldn't compare bottles and trublowski to Allen. Maybe you have only seen half the qbs since Kelly if you complain about Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 6-2 and following the process. Last year we were 2-6. I'm happy and do not feel the need to second guess everything. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Another passing yards thread..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I actually agree. If the defense is really that good, it will cope with JA's mistakes (as it did). He is electric when he is playing fast and loose. And, as time goes on, the mistakes will decrease. The overemphasis on his turnovers has slowed his progression. I also low key don't think turnovers are that big a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I don't know. It is a thin line. We have seen it happen to a bunch of QB's espescially those who look good in shorts. EJ, Bortles, Trubisky, Losman (remember he went like 7/10 65 yards one game haha), etc. Is it coaches hampering greatness or is it guys who just aren't good enough? Sometimes franchises and fanbases are just so desperate for good/better QB play they start lashing out at everybody else. It is year 2 for our own JA, so who knows yet. We had some pretty terrible OL and WR play last year, but I am on the doubter side currently. Would love to be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 14/20 70% completion percentage 160 yards. 11.4 yds per completion 8 per attempt. I'd say he was doing fine yesterday maybe let him throw it more. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Yes I am beating the drum again as I want Allen to succeed and be a star in this league. The last 4 weeks we see Allen's #'s going down. Weeks 1-3 uneven but 240-255 yards passing and since then less & less. The Mantra of mistake free football and less & less passing yards is concerning as I want to see what the Bills have in Josh Allen. He has as others have said looking more & more like check down Tyrod thanks to this coaching staff. Even those preaching at the foot of McD & going on about the Process talk about that 4-5 year plan. Take a look at the Bears & Jaguars & what happened to them. Two teams that thought they had Elite Defenses and only needed a game manager to not make mistakes & take them deep into the future. Bortles is the butt of jokes (watch The Good Place) and not sure where he even is. Truibinsky just put up 125 yards & is close to being benched or labeled a bust!!!! If this is a 4-5 year process don't we need to see who the Bills have in Josh Allen? I mean the last 2 games have been pretty windy... its not ideal situations for you to be flinging the ball around the field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) Downgrading Watkins to Zay left a vacuum of meh level wideouts. Edited November 4, 2019 by Teddy KGB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Yes I am beating the drum again as I want Allen to succeed and be a star in this league. The last 4 weeks we see Allen's #'s going down. Weeks 1-3 uneven but 240-255 yards passing and since then less & less. The Mantra of mistake free football and less & less passing yards is concerning as I want to see what the Bills have in Josh Allen. He has as others have said looking more & more like check down Tyrod thanks to this coaching staff. Even those preaching at the foot of McD & going on about the Process talk about that 4-5 year plan. Take a look at the Bears & Jaguars & what happened to them. Two teams that thought they had Elite Defenses and only needed a game manager to not make mistakes & take them deep into the future. Bortles is the butt of jokes (watch The Good Place) and not sure where he even is. Truibinsky just put up 125 yards & is close to being benched or labeled a bust!!!! If this is a 4-5 year process don't we need to see who the Bills have in Josh Allen? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Gets to second read, hangs in the pocket, keeps eyes downfield once he bails. Nothing like Taylor imo 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, goldenboy81 said: I wouldn't compare bottles and trublowski to Allen. Maybe you have only seen half the qbs since Kelly if you complain about Allen Bortles has won playoff games and reached the AFC Championship. Until Allen can do that - you’re right, no comparison. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Wasn't the grandfather of this thread taken down already? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Another passing yards thread..... they all are...with slightly different wording. we all want to see more offensive production, but the op is a man child about it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 15 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Yes I am beating the drum again as I want Allen to succeed and be a star in this league. The last 4 weeks we see Allen's #'s going down. Weeks 1-3 uneven but 240-255 yards passing and since then less & less. The Mantra of mistake free football and less & less passing yards is concerning as I want to see what the Bills have in Josh Allen. He has as others have said looking more & more like check down Tyrod thanks to this coaching staff. Even those preaching at the foot of McD & going on about the Process talk about that 4-5 year plan. Take a look at the Bears & Jaguars & what happened to them. Two teams that thought they had Elite Defenses and only needed a game manager to not make mistakes & take them deep into the future. Bortles is the butt of jokes (watch The Good Place) and not sure where he even is. Truibinsky just put up 125 yards & is close to being benched or labeled a bust!!!! If this is a 4-5 year process don't we need to see who the Bills have in Josh Allen? Everyone’s praising Lamar Jackson today(deservedly so) as the patriots king killer and best in the bunch of the QBs in his draft. Yet, 163 yards and a TD. Do you want shiny stats or wins? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, goldenboy81 said: I wouldn't compare bottles and trublowski to Allen. Maybe you have only seen half the qbs since Kelly if you complain about Allen I'm comparing coaching staffs that thought their Defenses were so good, that QB play was secondary. Well their Defenses are good, maybe very good, but not elite & can't overcome bad QB play & offensive schemes. The Bills need to know what they have in Allen & 20 passes/game & <200 tells me nothing vs. teams with 0-2 wins & bad defenses..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafi$ Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Take a look at big bens rookie year and 2nd year. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, teef said: they all are...with slightly different wording. we all want to see more offensive production, but the op is a man child about it. No those going 6-2, 6-2, 6-2....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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