JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) Someone posted a video of the Snow game on FB, and watching that and seeing who was on that roster less than 2 years ago it really struck me just how Beane and McDermott have remade this team in short order. Only 10 players from this game are still on the team. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201712100buf.htm#home_snap_counts::none Dion Dawkins Pat DiMarco Micah Hyde TreDavious White Jordan Poyer Matt Milano Lorenzo Alexander Jerry Hughes Reid Ferguson Stephen Hauschka Edited November 4, 2019 by JÂy RÛßeÒ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 My wife asked me yesterday ... who was who ..... and I had to admit I'm lucky to know 6 players and their numbers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 The stench of Rex Ryan is completely gone now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 LOL you Rosen'd you own post 2 minutes ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said: Someone posted a video of the Snow game on FB, and watching that and seeing who was on that roster less than 2 years ago it really struck me just how Beane and McDermott have remade this team in short order. Only 10 players from this game are still on the team. <script type="text/javascript" src="//widgets.sports-reference.com/wg.fcgi?css=1&site=pfr&url=%2Fboxscores%2F201712100buf.htm&div=div_home_snap_counts"></script> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 Just now, SlimShady'sGhost said: LOL you Rosen'd you own post I was wondering how that <code> tag would work. Didn't. Shaq Lawson was on that team but not active for that game, so officially we'll say 11 are still here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, njbuff said: The stench of Rex Ryan is completely gone now. Well.....Lorenzo Alexander & Shaq Lawson are still here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaT Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 That's one of the reasons patience will be a virtue with this team and organization. Improvement isn't going to be linear. They may well need more drafts and definitely need for a breakout star and dynamic performer or 2 on both sides of the ball. They have a bunch of good solid players but no real stars. The mid level free agents they've supplemented (and basically constructed the gist of this lineup and roster with) should ultimately be replaced by their draftees. They need to draft well and supplement with an occasional free agent (perhaps a high priced one or 2) rather than having so much of the roster be acquistions from other teams. I honestly think they are making progress this year but are not in the top group of teams yet. For their development stage, 2 years removed from a total gut job, they are overperforming. If the QB could be a star (and it's certainly not a given he will be) it could be an era of unbridled optimism. Especially if they draft well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Way to go Bubba. We’re aligned. I never expected us to get to the AFC Championship game, just hopefully win the wildcard weekend. That would be progress and you’re right we need more solid drafts, and this cap $ is probably going down in part to resigning those who deserve it like Milano, eventually Tre and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Well we all know why DiMarco’s still there, but are the rest of those losers? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Not completely fair way to look at it. Many players went on to contribute elsewhere: Preston Brown Zach Brown R Darby S Gilmore Dareus M Goodwin C Glenn L McCoy S Watkins R Woods Probably even more that are end of roster type guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, ngbills said: Not completely fair way to look at it. Many players went on to contribute elsewhere: Preston Brown Zach Brown R Darby S Gilmore Dareus M Goodwin C Glenn L McCoy S Watkins R Woods Probably even more that are end of roster type guys. I think you missed the point of the post. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Interesting. The question is, where is the team better and where is it worse. DT Kyle was ok in 2017 and better than Oliver, Dareus was still a good run stuffer and much better than Star ever was - run defnese went downhill terribly after he was traded MLB - I would say Preston Brown and Edmunds are a push. Of course Brown was not going to get any better and Edmunds still has upside we may have not seen C - Wood was a better center than Morse. If not for the injury, he is probably still the starting center LG - Incognito was far better than Spain RG - Feliciano is better than Ducasse, but after a bad start, down the stretch in 2017 Ducasse was playing very well. Regressed terribly. RB - McCoy is still a far better RB than Gore, He still has 5.2 YPC; Singletary has fewer rushes but an incredible 6.7 YPC. RT - Mills was a better run blocker than Nsekhe but far worse in pass protection. Ford is probably a better run blocker than Mills but again is a dumpster fire in pass blocking at this point, even worse than Mills WR - this is where the current team is far better - Zay Jones and KB were the receivers in 2017. Brown and Beasley are far better receivers and even Duke, McKenzie are better than 2017 Backup LB's - garbage in 2017 and garbage in 2019 TE - Current group of three is far better than 2017 with an injured Clay being the only decent player. QB - TT protected the ball and didn't win enough, Allen is throwing less interceptions over the last few weeks but still has a fumbling problem. Summary DL and OL are still worse than 2017. LB's are a push but the future looks bright WR, TE, and QB all look to be improved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, ngbills said: Not completely fair way to look at it. Many players went on to contribute elsewhere: Preston Brown Zach Brown R Darby S Gilmore Dareus M Goodwin C Glenn L McCoy S Watkins R Woods Probably even more that are end of roster type guys. Dareus is invisible. He has a total of 2.5 sacks since leaving Buffalo. He's nothing more than a rotational defensive lineman now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Mark Vader said: Well.....Lorenzo Alexander & Shaq Lawson are still here. Who happen to be the best of the front 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: I think you missed the point of the post. Correct...I was responding to the "the stench is gone" post and guessing it would go down the road of getting rid of trash players. No arguing there has not been a ton of turnover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 2 hours ago, uticaclub said: Who happen to be the best of the front 7 I'm not knocking them, just saying they are still here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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