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So Cleveland lost their safety for inappropriate comments in Twitter. 

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Just now, Boca BIlls said:

So Cleveland lost their safety for inappropriate comments in Twitter. 

Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy, apparently 🤥

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Getting a bit scared with all the negativity surrounding the Browns. Feels like things can go only two ways. They band together and come out with a great effort against the Bills - We will show the world moment. Or, they just completely implode.

I think, as with any game really but more so this week, a few early turnovers for either team will decide this game. If the Bills can get a pick 6 or a special teams mistake early and get up a couple of scores, the Browns might just fold.

 

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5 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Getting a bit scared with all the negativity surrounding the Browns. Feels like things can go only two ways. They band together and come out with a great effort against the Bills - We will show the world moment. Or, they just completely implode.

I think, as with any game really but more so this week, a few early turnovers for either team will decide this game. If the Bills can get a pick 6 or a special teams mistake early and get up a couple of scores, the Browns might just fold.

 

 

They blasted the Ravens in their game against them so they definitely have the talent to do so...the problem is they are simply an undisciplined, fractured and poorly coached team led by a coach who is in far far over his head.

 

Not saying this means the Bills are going to win, just saying what their problems are.

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Just now, matter2003 said:

 

They blasted the Ravens in their game against them so they definitely have the talent to do so...the problem is they are simply an undisciplined, fractured and poorly coached team led by a coach who is in far far over his head.

 

Not saying this means the Bills are going to win, just saying what their problems are.

I guess we'll get an answer to that question about talent versus culture....

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54 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Edmunds crashing straight ahead without regard to where the ball carrier is going.

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10 minutes ago, TPS said:

I guess we'll get an answer to that question about talent versus culture....

Schopp is that you ??

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4 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

Edmunds crashing straight ahead without regard to where the ball carrier is going.

 

This happens all too often unfortunately. 

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8 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

Edmunds crashing straight ahead without regard to where the ball carrier is going.


this was a good fill by Edmunds IMO. Taron just needs to make that play. McD says it all the time...gap integrity. Tremaine came downhill to fill his gap. 

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1 minute ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:


this was a good fill by Edmunds IMO. Poyer just needs to make that play. McD says it all the time...gap integrity. Tremaine came downhill to fill his gap. 

Correct. Edmunds filled his gap responsibility, I think that's actually Johnson who needs to make the tackle. 

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Just now, GoBills808 said:

Correct. Edmunds filled his gap responsibility, I think that's actually Johnson who needs to make the tackle. 

Fixed, thanks! 

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1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

You are certainly entitled to your opinion that Daboll is a good play caller, but "take him over Gase or Kitchens"?  That's kind of a low bar, don't you think?

 

FWIW I think this quote about Daboll from a Cover1 article by Fernando Schmude pretty well has it right:
Overall, he called a good game, but surely, just like his QB and the rest of the offense, he’s still a work in progress. He needs to find a balance between being aggressive and conservative in his calls, and take advantage of the multifaceted potential of this offense, using it according to their opponents’ strengths and weaknesses.

 

Fair enough.  It is an extremely low bar.  I used Tase because the media seems to have a love affair with him as being a quarterback whisperer.  He was fortunate enough to have been with Manning.  Look at his record with all other QB's.  Kitchens because he got the job as HC last year after great strides with Mayfield.  Mayfield looks rough this season s well as Cleveland.  I think Daboll has done a great job with what many believed to be a very unpolished talent at the QB position.  In all of his other stops he has had crap to work with at the QB position.  Nothing in the games he is calling leads me to believe he is the failure of this offense.  I am not saying Daboll can't improve but to put the blame of the offense solely on play calling is absurd when we are constantly trying to convert 2nd and longs and third and longs from presnap penalties.  Additionally as much of a fan boy I am of Josh Allen I can admit he needs to make the strides on offense himself.  The offensive line needs to step up as well.  The fact that we couldn't get Frank Gore in the end zone on 3 tries up the middle I don't put on play calling.  That is on the offensive line.  We brought in big boys and they need to get the job done.  

 

Don't interpret my post as not wanting to see more of the offense.  I think we are close to putting it together and it would be nice to see some solid passing.  I just didn't expect that the last two weeks with the weather/wind.  Hopefully in Cleveland we keep the pre snap penalties down and the offense can deliver more.  That being said I will take a win no matter how ugly over the Browns.

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14 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Correct. Edmunds filled his gap responsibility, I think that's actually Johnson who needs to make the tackle. 

Was that the play where they showed Murphy kind of laying into T Johnson afterward?

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5 hours ago, PaattMaann said:

 

yes! again, a lot ISN'T play calling, its execution (just like the players have been saying).

 

However, the third and 4th down and 1 play calling was uninspired, tried ramming gore right up their gut from power formation almost every short yardage situation. Be creative.

Agreed 

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18 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Thankfully, our red zone success has made up for some of our other knuckleheadedness, but boy we don’t make it easy. Glad they make it count when they get there. 
 

I know part of it was due to it being the first game of the year and there isn’t a lot of tape on what you plan to do at that point, but WTH happened to all those shifts, motions, and multiple looks on offense from the jets game? I was impressed with the creativity there. Allen had some unfortunate turnovers and they went away from it ever since. Ravens had all sorts of motions and shifts last night (and assuming their other games are similar), and it seemed to work fine for them. 🤷‍♂️

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2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

You are certainly entitled to your opinion that Daboll is a good play caller, but "take him over Gase or Kitchens"?  That's kind of a low bar, don't you think?

 

FWIW I think this quote about Daboll from a Cover1 article by Fernando Schmude pretty well has it right:
Overall, he called a good game, but surely, just like his QB and the rest of the offense, he’s still a work in progress. He needs to find a balance between being aggressive and conservative in his calls, and take advantage of the multifaceted potential of this offense, using it according to their opponents’ strengths and weaknesses.

I think that Cover 1 comment is reasonable. I think Daboll is trending toward what that commenter says, with some mistakes.

 

But that moderate opinion is far from the calls to fire Daboll by so many in these discussions, and those who call him "Dumboll." Those guys seem to me to be arrogant and unwarranted.

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1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Getting a bit scared with all the negativity surrounding the Browns. Feels like things can go only two ways. They band together and come out with a great effort against the Bills - We will show the world moment. Or, they just completely implode.

I think, as with any game really but more so this week, a few early turnovers for either team will decide this game. If the Bills can get a pick 6 or a special teams mistake early and get up a couple of scores, the Browns might just fold.

 

Already saw the end of that movie with the Eagles game. Hopefully this one turns out different and the Bills can bury the Browns for good. This is a pretty big game. Barring a massive fallout, win this game and it's pretty tough not to get a wild card... Lose, and ehhh dont want to think about that.

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I would very much like to get to 7 wins this weekend. That is all I have to say for now.

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1 hour ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:


this was a good fill by Edmunds IMO. Taron just needs to make that play. McD says it all the time...gap integrity. Tremaine came downhill to fill his gap. 

Exactly. This is the design of the defense. People want to assume that every successful play is somehow Edmund’s fault.  (Or Star’s fault) Not the case, rarely is.  

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it's a bit depressing to be 6-2 and have the best start since '93 and most fans aren't even confident in beating the miserable 2-6 Browns. we aren't even favorited in the game which is hilarious. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Tesla03 said:

it's a bit depressing to be 6-2 and have the best start since '93 and most fans aren't even confident in beating the miserable 2-6 Browns. we aren't even favorited in the game which is hilarious. 

 

 

 

You find that depressing?

 

 I find it hilarious 

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