boater Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 8 hours ago, ALF said: Did the Bills ever take a survey of season ticket holders of the type of new stadium they want ? How much more in ticket prices they would be willing to pay for a indoor stadium ? Yes. Terry and Kim conducted a wide survey. Many here participated. They haven't released the results yet. But the structure of the questions will provide the data you are looking for if it is ever released. I suspect we'll find people talk a good bluster when it comes to stadium quality and cost; but when the rubber hits the road and translates into higher ticket costs and/or PSLs.. people will back off. Before you know it, the Bills are playing at All High Stadium. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Man Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bubba Gump said: 3-2 = winning record. Indy game, still a win. Both those would be different if the weather was better. The snow was what kept Indy from winning. So agree to disagree. ? Indy was 4-12 that year. IIRC the weather actually made it a lot closer of a game than it should have been so it seems like the weather came close to hurting the Bills in this situation since it leveled the playing field against an inferior opponent. Edited October 30, 2019 by Metal Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 16 minutes ago, HOUSE said: that's all the space Tyrod could see as he temporarily shook in the pocket. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 36 minutes ago, Metal Man said: Indy was 4-12 that year. IIRC the weather actually made it a lot closer of a game than it should have been so it seems like the weather came close to hurting the Bills in this situation since it leveled the playing field against an inferior opponent. Kind of like that 8-0 loss to Cleveland back on Dec 16, 2007. Aren't you glad football is played in the elements? So much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: My point is if snow and cold were such a huge advantage, the Bills would be undefeated, not a hair over .500. Weather advantage = fake news. Couldn't have anything to do with the fact that the Bills have sucked for 20 years could it? My point is that the weather has helped the Bills more than hurt them in their existence. The 90's Bills thrived on beating teams in bad weather. Edited October 30, 2019 by Bubba Gump 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said: Couldn't have anything to do with the fact that the Bills have sucked for 20 years could it? Jeff Wright and Carlton Bailey didn't let a little bit of snow and cold weather get in the way of a huge play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellDopeland Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Is it time for powdered wigs to come back as a fashionable look? NO Is it time for the government to put Richard Nixon's face on Mt. Rushmore? NO Is it time for Ford to revive and begin producing the Pinto once again? NO Is it time for the Bills to place Chris Kelsay's name on the Wall of Fame? NO Is it time for Francis Ford Coppola to make Godfather IV starring Vin Diesel as the new Don? NO Is it time for the Buffalo Bills to play in a dome? Hell No! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, RussellDopeland said: Is it time for powdered wigs to come back as a fashionable look? NO Is it time for the government to put Richard Nixon's face on Mt. Rushmore? NO Is it time for Ford to revive and begin producing the Pinto once again? NO Is it time for the Bills to place Chris Kelsay's name on the Wall of Fame? NO Is it time for Francis Ford Coppola to make Godfather IV starring Vin Diesel as the new Don? NO Is it time for the Buffalo Bills to play in a dome? Hell No! The new Godfather would have to be Adam Sandler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: I suddenly feel compelled to go watch reruns of ‘The Starlost’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Bubba Gump said: Couldn't have anything to do with the fact that the Bills have sucked for 20 years could it? My point is that the weather has helped the Bills more than hurt them in their existence. The 90's Bills thrived on beating teams in bad weather. There are too many factors to say one way or another if weather helps the Bills win. You're opinion is it does, mine is it doesn't. But do you spend hundreds of millions on an open air facility just for the one time every few years where the weather gets so bad you get that alleged advantage? And what do you give up? Attendance? Free agents? The ability to monetize a stadium outside of football season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: Kind of like that 8-0 loss to Cleveland back on Dec 16, 2007. Aren't you glad football is played in the elements? So much better. Come on now: that was Ohio snow, not western NY snow. It blows differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: Come on now: that was Ohio snow, not western NY snow. It blows differently. always seemed the opposite in snow conditions for Cleveland and Buffalo during fall road trips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Kind of like that 8-0 loss to Cleveland back on Dec 16, 2007. Aren't you glad football is played in the elements? So much better. How many games have been played like that, in Buffalo, in the last 20 years? It just doesn't happen that often. When it last happened a few years ago, 7 out of 10 fans around here seemed to positively LOVE the game. There were a few dissenting voices in the game thread, but folks really got into the snow and craziness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 10 coldest Bills games, going back as far as 1975. Only 5 were played in Orchard Park. https://www.buffalobills.com/news/the-top-10-coldest-games-in-bills-history-5087866 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: How many games have been played like that, in Buffalo, in the last 20 years? It just doesn't happen that often. When it last happened a few years ago, 7 out of 10 fans around here seemed to positively LOVE the game. There were a few dissenting voices in the game thread, but folks really got into the snow and craziness. Right. So do you build an open air stadium just for that rare snow game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Snow games are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: There are too many factors to say one way or another if weather helps the Bills win. You're opinion is it does, mine is it doesn't. But do you spend hundreds of millions on an open air facility just for the one time every few years where the weather gets so bad you get that alleged advantage? And what do you give up? Attendance? Free agents? The ability to monetize a stadium outside of football season? Consider me old school, I'd rather sit in crappy weather than inside a controlled climate. I can't picture watching the Bills play inside. The "home" games in Toronto were horrible. I'm 51 now and still love the outdoor atmosphere. Maybe that'll change the older I get. But for now, let it snow, let it snow, let it snow. I'm psyched for this Sunday as the weather is gonna be good football weather. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Domes are absolutely awful.... football is meant to be played in the open air, with weather part of the game 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 (edited) If a new stadium is open air , then a better location with less snow and wind would help (sorry Hammer) just a thought. I would think the players would prefer indoor and free agents who have a choice where to go. It depends how much the owners and season ticket holders want to spend. If New Era is sound enough , more remodel would be the cheapest. Add more restrooms and upgrade the present ones. Edited November 2, 2019 by ALF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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