cage Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) I guess I don't understand why Ed Oliver was credited for a sack on the Dolphins first drive? Fitz did a backward's pass to, I believe Wilson, who feigned like he was going to throw for a moment and then tucked the ball and tried to run. Seems like a tackle for a loss rather than a sack. Wilson wasn't the QB either. I don't think I've ever seen a sack credited against a non-QB. Second, neither the NFL.com nor CBS sports site are crediting Jordan Phillips for sacking Fitz where he actually caused a fumble that Fitzpatrick recovered. He's credited with a forced fumble, but not a sack? Edited October 21, 2019 by cage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 He was a passer. He was scrambling. It's a sack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 If a QB pulls down a pass attempt and gets tackled, is it not a sack? On that play the RB becomes a QB. Thus a sack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) I'll show you what a sack looks like. Hold my beer while I take a photo. Just a word of warning... it's really hot and humid right now in Rarotonga, where I'm currently on holiday. This ain't gonna look pretty. Edited October 21, 2019 by Bad Things Stupidity 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cage Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: If a QB pulls down a pass attempt and gets tackled, is it not a sack? On that play the RB becomes a QB. Thus a sack. If a QB catches a batted pass or gets a throwback after a pitchout or backwards pass, then he gets credited with a reception. If he's tackled behind the LOS, its a completed pass with a loss of yardage, a negative pass play,... not a sack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I am more confused at why NFL.com did not credit Jordan Phillips for a sack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, cage said: If a QB catches a batted pass or gets a throwback after a pitchout or backwards pass, then he gets credited with a reception. If he's tackled behind the LOS, its a completed pass with a loss of yardage, a negative pass play,... not a sack. A backward pass is a lateral. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cage Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, PolishPrince said: I am more confused at why NFL.com did not credit Jordan Phillips for a sack Checked Foxsports.com as well and he's not credited for a sack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, PolishPrince said: I am more confused at why NFL.com did not credit Jordan Phillips for a sack I guess even though he went back he didn't attempt to look to throw a pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, cage said: Checked Foxsports.com as well and he's not credited for a sack Then it’s a pretty good bet that it won’t go in the books as a sack. Thought it was odd myself, but usually the ball gets thrown on those kinds of plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) Look between your legs, no behind that... Edited October 21, 2019 by Don Otreply 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, cage said: If a QB catches a batted pass or gets a throwback after a pitchout or backwards pass, then he gets credited with a reception. If he's tackled behind the LOS, its a completed pass with a loss of yardage, a negative pass play,... not a sack. Because he is throwing it forward, hence a pass. The fact it got batted backwards doesn't matter. The sack that Oliver got would not be a reception for the receiver because it was a lateral, but when he attempted to pass it became a pass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 It’s an odd quirk. I don’t know the official rule but wouldn’t be shocked if it gets reclassified later a sweep for a loss is a TFL but if the runner holds the ball differently at some point before crossing the line it’s a sack? Though I guess a wild cat play is a TFL not a sack so I guess the person taking the snap isn’t defining. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, NoSaint said: It’s an odd quirk. I don’t know the official rule but wouldn’t be shocked if it gets reclassified later a sweep for a loss is a TFL but if the runner holds the ball differently at some point before crossing the line it’s a sack? Though I guess a wild cat play is a TFL not a sack so I guess the person taking the snap isn’t defining. He attempted a pass. It was not a run fake. He was trying to throw a pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cage Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: It’s an odd quirk. I don’t know the official rule but wouldn’t be shocked if it gets reclassified later a sweep for a loss is a TFL but if the runner holds the ball differently at some point before crossing the line it’s a sack? Though I guess a wild cat play is a TFL not a sack so I guess the person taking the snap isn’t defining. Exactly! Which is what prompted the topic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, NoSaint said: It’s an odd quirk. I don’t know the official rule but wouldn’t be shocked if it gets reclassified later a sweep for a loss is a TFL but if the runner holds the ball differently at some point before crossing the line it’s a sack? Though I guess a wild cat play is a TFL not a sack so I guess the person taking the snap isn’t defining. It's somewhat of a subjective call but that was clearly an attempt to pass today. 100%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Because he is throwing it forward, hence a pass. The fact it got batted backwards doesn't matter. The sack that Oliver got would not be a reception for the receiver because it was a lateral, but when he attempted to pass it became a pass. Rules are hard. LOL. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1: a usually rectangular-shaped bag (as of paper, burlap, or canvas) 2: the amount contained in a sackespecially : a fixed amount of a commodity used as a unit of measure 3a: a woman's loose-fitting dress b: a short usually loose-fitting coat for women and children c: SACQUE sense 2 4: DISMISSALgave him the sack 5a: HAMMOCK, BUNK b: BED 6: a base in baseball 7: an instance of sacking the quarterback in football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 They used to be burlap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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