0017 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Don’t forget Leremy Tunsil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Just now, Nextmanup said: This move has nothing to do with the Rams future. It's a "win now" move to the hilt. Whether it works or was fair value remains to be seen. I completely disagree. I don’t know how you can ignore the fact that they are giving up two future draft picks, and say it doesn’t impact their future. I agree, as I said elsewhere, its 100% a win now move. And as you said, we’ll see if it works or he plays to an all-pro level. But it’s hard for me to see how trading such heavily valued draft capital can be seen as not jeopardizing the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: I'd never want to trade 2 firsts for that pain in the ass. Never. Or any CB for that matter. Well his name wasn’t Jalen Jaguarsy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Mike in Horseheads said: I'd take that trade for white in a second That would set us back a year or two on this journey in my opinion. We need to keep moving forward, giving up one of our top 2 or 3 players takes away our momentum. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I actually think the Rams’ philosophy is pretty interesting. Maybe when you have 4 or 5 stud corner pieces, as they think they do, you just go after elite players and push off the dead cap hits and draft pick losses as far as you can? Plus, being in a new and fickle market like LA, you wonder if the team is thinking they have to win now and build loyalty or else they won’t have a fan base for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 41 minutes ago, Augie said: And..........then you need to PAY THE MAN! Too rich for my blood. I love McD’s scheme where we can get some CB’s who can do the job without TOTALLY breaking the bank. agreed sir! the Rams have about a 3 year window. they miss, they are done. What I wouldn't give to see JA flex at Ramsey in a SuperBowl lol. At this point, I'll take Tre and Wallace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Lafromboise said: Rams imploding.. They really are.. They're panicking They're not built particularly well.. their window looks like it's already closing honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: That would set us back a year or two on this journey in my opinion. We need to keep moving forward, giving up one of our top 2 or 3 players takes away our momentum. And White is beloved in that locker room. He's also one of the top CB in the game. He's the#1 CB on the best passing d in football since 2018. Def not making that trade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, CajunBillsBacker said: That’s the price of difference makers these days. The Bills would never trade like that and the results show. I would have given up 3 1sts for Khalil Mack back then in a heart beat. Man, just seems too steep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, NoSaint said: ill again point to them winning their conference last year. plenty of day two draft picks don’t work out. They moved on, got a replacement, and received a 3rd round compensatory pick. Essentially they traded back 35 spots on day 2 of the following year to try to fill a hole there. (I’m aware of Gaines but seemed ready to move on from him) Id be fine with that choice here. Worst case is what happened, best case you get a good guy cheap. Yeah, Sammy the Decoy propelled them to the conference finals. Just stop. They got swindled in that deal and Snead looked like a clown, just as he does today making this panic trade. He just lost a ton of leverage in Ramsey's next negotiation, as trading 2 first-round picks for a short-term rental would almost certainly get him axed (barring a miracle SB win). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 And people called me crazy when I said rams would be last in that division by 2020. Goff sucks and now they are mortgaging the farm for 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, mannc said: He is arguably the best CB in the league. It's a premier position, arguably worth even more than a top edge rusher. That's worth 2 firsts. There were apparently multiple teams willing to give that up for him. Gonna have to disagree. You're mortgaging your future on one position that isn't a difference maker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) Just saw this. The Rams are idiots. 2 firsts and a 4th? That's just crackerdogs. For a CB? Edited October 16, 2019 by Green Lightning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) We didn’t even get a ***** comp pick for Gilmore. He’s gobs better than Ramsey. Whaley asleep. Edited October 16, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Rams can survive this trade. What they can’t survive is paying a bottom-15 quarterback $25m/year or whatever it is they’re paying Goff to suck. That’s going to kill them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Insane but it’s a team coming off a SB. Probably hoping they will be low 1sts and maybe it’s puts them over the top. Having a shut down cb can really help your pass rush. I wont have done it but it’s not like it’s Miami making the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, CajunBillsBacker said: That’s the price of difference makers these days. The Bills would never trade like that and the results show. I would have given up 3 1sts for Khalil Mack back then in a heart beat. It’s a good thing we are growing our own. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: Rams can survive this trade. What they can’t survive is paying a bottom-15 quarterback $25m/year or whatever it is they’re paying Goff to suck. That’s going to kill them. As terrible as Goff was last week, I struggle to call a guy who passed for 900 yards the previous 2 weeks bottom tier. Their defense has been a huge problem, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Gonna have to disagree. You're mortgaging your future on one position that isn't a difference maker I would not have made the trade either, but a top cover corner like Ramsey is absolutely considered a difference maker in today's NFL. It can be hard to keep up with league-wide trends, but the current thinking is that great coverage guys like Ramsey are more valuable than pass rushers because teams have figured out ways to neutralize pass rushers. (I'm guessing that might be news to Aaron Rodgers, Baker Mayfield and some other NFL QBs.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 46 minutes ago, bbb said: Things seem to have really changed lately. Lots of first round picks flying around the last two years or so. For quite awhile, they were never traded. I think people overvalue draft picks. There are a lot more 1st round busts than people remember. Ramsey, at worst, is a top 5 cb. Those aren’t easy to find. 2 minutes ago, mannc said: I would not have made the trade either, but a top cover corner like Ramsey is absolutely considered a difference maker in today's NFL. It can be hard to keep up with league-wide trends, but the current thinking is that great coverage guys like Ramsey are more valuable than pass rushers because teams have figured out ways to neutralize pass rushers. (I'm guessing that might be news to Aaron Rodgers, Baker Mayfield and some other NFL QBs.) Ramsey makes Donald better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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