OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Agreed 100%. I would go further to say that in the Dregs of Larry Fitzgerald plus Christian Kirk, Rosen had significantly more to work with at WR than Allen did with Zay Jones and Kelvin Benjamin, and that I thought our OL performed worse than the Cardinals (we may have had slightly better players, but they performed worse). The only negative Rosen had that Allen did not, was the same OC all through the season instead of having his QB coach pulled into the OC role partway through. But Allen had a WR coach as his QB coach, so maybe that's a wash - though Culley seems to be doing OK in Baltimore so far. Basically the above is the reason I changed from being a "wrong Josh" to a "right Josh"er: Allen had the same or less to work with than Rosen did on offense, and he did more with it. There is no doubt in my mind that Allen raised the level of play and elevated the team around him, and that's what a QB who can develop into "the Man" needs to be able to do. And that's why a statement like "Allen is going to lose us more games than he wins" simply can't be supported. ..."quite inviting" isn't it Hap?.......if you're a collegiate QB coming out and Bflo is in the draft mix, stay in school and get your PhD versus facing THIS "Welcoming Committee (COUGH)".......imagine if Peyton started his 3-13 career in Bflo?......there would be a GoFundMe page for his UBER ride outta town....quickly...SMH..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 W. vs. Mia (5-1) 0-4 W. vs. Phi (6-1) 3-2 W. vs. Wash. (7-1) 5-0 W. @ Cle. (8-1) 2-3 W @ Mia (9-1) 0-4 W vs. Den. (10-1) 1-4 L @ Dal. (10-2) 3-2 W vs Bal. (11-2) 3-2 W @ Pitt. (12-2) 1-4 L @ NE (12-3) 5-0 W vs. NYJ (13-3) 0-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 I think we will be 9-2 or 10-1 on Thanksgiving. I believe we will beat the Cowboys on thanksgiving. And with that being said I think 13-3 becomes a real possibility. We only have 4 challenging games left (Phi, Dal, Balt, NE). And I think we go no worse than 2-2 in those games. Every other game on our schedule is one we absolutely should win. Doesn’t mean we do, but those are games where we will be decisively the better team on the field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksm27 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 54 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Actually, yes. As I said, most NFL teams stumble sometime in a 16 game season with a head scratching loss. That game would qualify for sure. Hopefully the Bills are immune to this and maintain laser-like focus. Exactly. Every year we lose games we expect to win. In the past that has meant us being mediocre and losing to a bad team. This year it means us being good and losing to a mediocre team. But I guarantee one of those Ws that everyone chalks up will go down as a L. And that’s fine, I think we have the room for that to happen once, but maybe not twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 10-6 Wild Card 2 hours ago, Gugny said: W. vs. Mia (5-1) 0-4 L. vs. Phi (5-2) 3-2 W. vs. Wash. (6-2) 5-0 W. @ Cle. (7-2) 2-3 W @ Mia (8-2) 0-4 W vs. Den. (9-2) 1-4 L @ Dal. (9-3) 3-2 W vs Bal. (10-3) 3-2 W @ Pitt. (11-3) 1-4 L @ NE (11-4) 5-0 W vs. NYJ (12-4) 0-4 I'm looking at it more from a "Bills defense vs. QBs who are not that good," perspective. The three losses are against (QBs) Wentz, Prescott and Brady. I consider all of the WINS above as games the Bills actually should win, bringing us to 12-4. If we can steal one from PHI, DAL or NE, that brings us to 13-3 and I think that wins the division. I don't think 12-4 taking the division is a crazy thought. If we can beat NE in NE (tough task) and beat them in a tie-breaker, that would be sweet. I can't see NE going any worse than 12-4. Baltimore will be tough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Baltimore will be tough Don't think so. When Lamar's not playing Miami, he's not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 11-5 Lose to Eagles, Browns, Pats and Cowboys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 31 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Don't think so. When Lamar's not playing Miami, he's not good. Time will tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, Bangarang said: 11-5 Lose to Eagles, Browns, Pats and Cowboys. Have you seen the Eagles play? They're pretty bad. Same with the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: I think we will be 9-2 or 10-1 on Thanksgiving. I believe we will beat the Cowboys on thanksgiving. And with that being said I think 13-3 becomes a real possibility. We only have 4 challenging games left (Phi, Dal, Balt, NE). And I think we go no worse than 2-2 in those games. Every other game on our schedule is one we absolutely should win. Doesn’t mean we do, but those are games where we will be decisively the better team on the field. Very wishful thinking to say we are "decisively better" than the Browns. C'mon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) I think the Bills will get two more cracks at beating NE and I expect at least 1 victory against them. Nothing less than a Vince Lombardy trophy will due. Edited October 13, 2019 by Tatonka68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I added the team records as of this week in Red, above. Dolphins at 4-0 and Redskins at 5-0? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Very wishful thinking to say we are "decisively better" than the Browns. C'mon. I respectfully disagree. Our D will eat Baker alive IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 38 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Have you seen the Eagles play? They're pretty bad. Same with the Browns. I have. The NFL is such a week to week league and I’m just guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Just now, Bangarang said: I have. The NFL is such a week to week league and I’m just guessing. Dude, I'm telling you, they're BAD on Defense, and Wentz is average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 36 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Dolphins at 4-0 and Redskins at 5-0? Lol I think you mean “you reversed a couple” to which I say “thanks, Fixed!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Gugny said: BUF, KC, HOU, DAL, PHI can all beat NE. If Baltimore had a good QB, I'd add them. But I can't see them beating NE. So I repeat: you have us losing to NE at NE, then you say 12-4 taking the division for us isn’t a crazy thought. If we take the division at 12-4 but lose to NE, that means 5 *different* teams beat NE. I think KC, Hou, Dal, Phi and Bal can in theory beat the Pats on a good day. But that they all do - well, we’ll see. IMO the Bills will not win the division until and unless they can at least split with the Pats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 To the OP’s question, I see them no worse than 11-5 at season’s end, barring some catastrophic injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 38 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: So I repeat: you have us losing to NE at NE, then you say 12-4 taking the division for us isn’t a crazy thought. If we take the division at 12-4 but lose to NE, that means 5 *different* teams beat NE. I think KC, Hou, Dal, Phi and Bal can in theory beat the Pats on a good day. But that they all do - well, we’ll see. IMO the Bills will not win the division until and unless they can at least split with the Pats. I also said that if we can steal one of the losses I had for us, we'd be at 13-3. My 12-4 winning the division scenario included the Bills beating New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, Gugny said: I also said that if we can steal one of the losses I had for us, we'd be at 13-3. My 12-4 winning the division scenario included the Bills beating New England. Oh, I misunderstood. If we beat NE and go 12-4 - well, it could happen. I like the thought, but i do think it’s kind of crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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