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Will we finally see the Bills FULL OFFENSE after the bye?


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14 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Isn’t Kroft still in a walking boot?

He was out of the boot days before the Pats*** game. 

12 hours ago, Rocket94 said:

Absolutely! We can't give it a name, but this whole process is just happening right now! 

Kaizen. 

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23 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

I don't believe Daboll is waiting to unleash the full power of this offense. What we have is:

 

An offense with 8 or 9 starters who have played 5 total NFL games together, led by a 2nd year QB with 16 total NFL games under his belt.

They have played 3 defenses in the top 12 in YPG

They have played 3 defenses in the top 12 in defensive DVOA

They have played 2 teams in the top 6 in PPG

Against the other two teams, they averaged over 400 YPG, 24 first downs PG, and 24.5 PPG

Overall, after five games, they are 12th in YPG

Overall, after five games, they are 26th in PPG (Although, they are 7th in redzone points and 4th in redzone TDs)

 

They actually have a pretty good offense that could be very good. They have moved the ball against every team they have played. Their problems have been consistency, turnovers, and critical mistakes (penalties, drops, etc) that end drives, particularly scoring drives. They clearly have done well once they get into the redzone; however, they have had so many drives end inside the opponents 50, but outside of scoring range. Mostly because of these issues. I won't even mention the coma the team and coaching staff seemed to slip into in the third quarter of 4 of the 5 games.

 

If they can just correct these things, they will be a top ten offense in both yards and points.

 

 

The reason I'm optimistic that this offense will get on track is that when you look at the stats they're kind of goofy.  As you point out once in the red zone the Bills are very good.  The problem seems to be that they implode when they get to the opponents 30 - 40 yard line.  Think about every game and how many DIFFERENT ways (sack, TO, penalty, play call) we mess up at the 35 yard line?  I think in the 1st half of week one we got to the Jets 35 three different times without scoring a point.

 

Given the almost total overhaul of the offense and the addition of new coaches at O-line, Receivers & QB it's only natural that the unit has struggled for consistency.  They have moved the ball and are almost surgical in scoring TD's once in the red zone.  Develop that consistency and this will be a team scoring 24 - 28 points regularly going forward.

 

 

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9 hours ago, Jerome007 said:

Don"t disrespect Miami!

 

IMO it's easy to coach and plan for teams like that: convince your guys to give their all for one quarter or one half. If the score is out of reach, you run a lot and mostly a vanilla offense. But don't come in all cocky! Any given Sunday...

I want the Bills to take Miami seriously and step their throats on game day.

 

But I'll still choose to disrespect Miami personally.  This is a team that's deliberately built to lose, and they're making a mockery of the sport.  My one and only hope for this franchise is that they accidentally win this weekend and screw up the tank.

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32 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

 

The reason I'm optimistic that this offense will get on track is that when you look at the stats they're kind of goofy.  As you point out once in the red zone the Bills are very good.  The problem seems to be that they implode when they get to the opponents 30 - 40 yard line.  Think about every game and how many DIFFERENT ways (sack, TO, penalty, play call) we mess up at the 35 yard line?  I think in the 1st half of week one we got to the Jets 35 three different times without scoring a point.

 

Given the almost total overhaul of the offense and the addition of new coaches at O-line, Receivers & QB it's only natural that the unit has struggled for consistency.  They have moved the ball and are almost surgical in scoring TD's once in the red zone.  Develop that consistency and this will be a team scoring 24 - 28 points regularly going forward.

 

 

Right - 3 drives inside the Jets 40 (2 inside the 30) with no points; 4 drives inside Cincy's 40 (2 inside the 30, 1 inside the 15) with no points; 7 drives into NE territory (4 inside the 40, 1 inside the 10, 2 inside the 25) with no points, and 4 drives inside the TENN 40 (although one was to end the game at the TENN 20) . That is 18 drives into opponents territory (15 inside the 40) in 5 games with no points. If they just got field goals on 15 of those 18 drives, that would be 45 more points and they would be averaging 27 PPG instead of 18 PPG - which would be good enough for 8th in the NFL. 

 

I know other teams have drives into opponents territory that don't end in points as well; however, I doubt many of them are averaging almost four drives a game inside their opponents 45 (3 drives PG inside the 40) with no points.

 

I am optimistic as well. They have done more to stop themselves, from moving the ball consistently and scoring more, than opposing defenses have. I think they will come together more as a team, particularly when Williams and Singletary are fully integrated, the more they play together. If they (Allen in particular) can cut down on turnovers, play more consistent with fewer mistakes, I think they will get better at finishing those drives with some kind of points.

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16 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...I don't think I'd show much versus Miami other than hard nosed, fundamental football offensively......certainly CANNOT take them for granted though......"wounded animals" act adversely......Daboll should save any new wrinkles for later.....

There's "wounded", and then there's "missing a leg, one eye, and most of their teeth" i.e. the Dolphins.

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17 hours ago, ChicagoRic said:

With Duke replacing Zay and Singletary, Kroft, and the full O line likely being ready to go, will we see a change in this offense?  For the first time, they might actually have all the pieces in place.

I think what will see is the preseason/vanilla offense, and Allen will still have over 300 yards 

GOOOO BILLS !!!!

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6 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

I watch Gore and i am in awe. I also watch his runs and think gosh what another back could of picked up on that run. I also think Gore is going to be much less effective as the season wears on. I also think this may be why the staff has held Singletary back. If they can keep Singletary ready to run the second half it will help him and Gore. I think the plan all along was to run Gore the majority of snaps early in the year and then gradually flip it during the season. 

Except most of those runs are stopped within 2 yards of the line of scrimmage if it's another back...Gore's tackle breaking abilities haven't diminished at all. Even if he can't break a 20 yarder to an 80 yarder anymore, I don't think Singletary nor McCoy (anymore) have that kind of speed either.  The home run threat RB is not on the roster this year. That's OK. 

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46 minutes ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said:

Except most of those runs are stopped within 2 yards of the line of scrimmage if it's another back...Gore's tackle breaking abilities haven't diminished at all. Even if he can't break a 20 yarder to an 80 yarder anymore, I don't think Singletary nor McCoy (anymore) have that kind of speed either.  The home run threat RB is not on the roster this year. That's OK. 

He seems to use his instincts to avoid power and know where to run. He doesn’t seem to possess extraordinary tackle breaking abilities. All backs in the NFL can break some tackles, and do.  

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