3rdnlng Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Gugny said: Those were great and he's done a lot of great things, IMO. But getting Taylor out of Orchard Park made me giddy. Getting a 3rd round pick for such a crappy QB was magical. The moment I saw the alert pop up my phone was the happiest I've felt as a Bills fan in 20+ years. I haven't seen such hatred since Will Scarlett had a thing for his half brother. Tyrod is not a QB you win the SB with, but have you explored the possibility that the Bills might still be undefeated this year due to a managed offense and superior defense? Don't get me wrong, Josh Allen is THE Bills QB but the hate in you is strong, Gugny. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Just now, Artem Lipatov said: Recently was a thread Beane was seen at college football match. It means he goes personally to scout college talents. I like it. Buddy Nix did the same thing except he slept at the games and the stadium clean-up crews had to wake him up & tell him to leave. Whaley tried the same thing, but would end up staying in the hotel room watching the porn channel instead of going to the game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 minute ago, JMF2006 said: Yup all these trades where he got something for nothing and if he gets something for Zay we need to build it There's teams out there that aren't super happy about their WR depth charts. Philly, New Orleans, Oakland come to mind. The nice thing is he's under contract next year too so its sort of an investment in a young player, and less a rental. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: He played better than Ford or Ty Nsekhe have played at that spot. Makes me wonder if they may make a change at RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 minute ago, hemma said: Makes me wonder if they may make a change at RT. got an extra week to prepare too - nows the best time to move a player as well as adjust the gameplan etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: I haven't seen such hatred since Will Scarlett had a thing for his half brother. Tyrod is not a QB you win the SB with, but have you explored the possibility that the Bills might still be undefeated this year due to a managed offense and superior defense? Don't get me wrong, Josh Allen is THE Bills QB but the hate in you is strong, Gugny. Hate? I have nothing but love. Love for Beane getting Tyrod the hell out of here and getting a 3rd round pick! LOVE!!!! We lost to the best team in football/defending Super Bowl champs. Did Allen suck in that game? Yes. It was his 15th start and against the best defense in the NFL. So, no ... I haven't explored that possibility. Frankly, I'd rather explore Roseanne Barr's anus. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artem Lipatov Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: The last time the Bills got a player for a player that appeared to be each team dumping a guy neither team wanted and it worked out was the Jerry Hughes trade. It was about the only significant thing that the Nix/Whaley team did right with long term success. Trade Kiko for Shady was a lucky move too. But trade 1st round for climbing several spots up to get Sammy Watkins was a disaster. Evans (TB) and OBJ were on the same draft without trading up. And many thought that moveup was for Khalil Mack, but no (( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Gugny said: Hate? I have nothing but love. Love for Beane getting Tyrod the hell out of here and getting a 3rd round pick! LOVE!!!! We lost to the best team in football/defending Super Bowl champs. Did Allen suck in that game? Yes. It was his 15th start and against the best defense in the NFL. So, no ... I haven't explored that possibility. Frankly, I'd rather explore Roseanne Barr's anus. While I agree with the move regarding TT and was also thrilled with the pick we received, I for one would rather be Tom Brady's valet than retrace steps that Tom Arnold has taken. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, dneveu said: got an extra week to prepare too - nows the best time to move a player as well as adjust the gameplan etc. At a minimum Bates will be incorporated into more extra lineman practices and gameplans. I wonder how good his his hands are? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I like most of the moves that Beane has made in general. Especially his entire overhaul of the Bills and the past regime. It is the type of stuff that keeps a guy up at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, hemma said: Makes me wonder if they may make a change at RT. should over the Bye. Put Cody Ford at RG to stay. Nsekhe and Bates are RT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 To me, long term, Bates is a center. He has very short arms and I don't think he has a chance to hold up long term at tackle. He did a great job filling in for an emergency situation, but I do think he would be exposed if he played there full time. I do like him though, and I could see him taking over for Morse in a couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 2 hours ago, cage said: While there are other more high profile moves, I'd like make a shout out to an under-the-radar move that shows how good Beane really is. The trade for Ryan Bates. I can't recall another example of a team trading and established NFL player for an UDFA rookie and scoring the win in that trade. Eli Harold was an established NFL player. Not a star, but certainly established and still young. He wasn't going to make the team and as players like Darryl Johnson were stepping up. Beane not only pulled off the trading of an asset that was going to be cut, but targeted a rookie who nobody else knew. Bates demonstrates his value, makes the team, offers position flexibility and yesterday was a key part of our 4th quarter victory. I don't know what Bates will eventually turn into, but it kind of reminds me of when Polian snagged Steve Tasker, a guy nobody knew at the time, as Houston tried to sneak him through waivers to bring back from IR. https://www.mcall.com/sports/eagles/mc-spt-eagles-column-saturday-moore-20190915-5nsoc6ujfzfkdj3r5442vus56u-story.html Did Eli Harold even make the Eagles squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 49 minutes ago, Limeaid said: The trade for Cleveland's WR with little time to evaluate was very questionable. I think Beane has great college scouts and low to middling proplayer scouts. We have had some big whiffs on free agents, and that can't continue if we want to sustain long term success. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, chris heff said: Did Eli Harold even make the Eagles squad? He was released during final roster cuts on August 30, 2019 so is available if we have injuries to be traded again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: To me, long term, Bates is a center. He has very short arms and I don't think he has a chance to hold up long term at tackle. He did a great job filling in for an emergency situation, but I do think he would be exposed if he played there full time. I do like him though, and I could see him taking over for Morse in a couple of years. Yeah you’re probably right. I don’t see him as a long term RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 50 minutes ago, Gugny said: Those were great and he's done a lot of great things, IMO. But getting Taylor out of Orchard Park made me giddy. Getting a 3rd round pick for such a crappy QB was magical. The moment I saw the alert pop up my phone was the happiest I've felt as a Bills fan in 20+ years. You say what you want about Tyrod and you're not wrong. But lets not forget that man was the QB that took us to the playoffs. For better or worse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Just now, BillsMafia13 said: You say what you want about Tyrod and you're not wrong. But lets not forget that man was the QB that took us to the playoffs. For better or worse He was the QB on the team that went to the playoffs. He didn't take that team anywhere. Bills won 9 games in spite of him; not because of him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 33 minutes ago, Artem Lipatov said: Trade Kiko for Shady was a lucky move too. But trade 1st round for climbing several spots up to get Sammy Watkins was a disaster. Evans (TB) and OBJ were on the same draft without trading up. And many thought that moveup was for Khalil Mack, but no (( Evans would have required a trade up. He was the guy I wanted badly in that draft. He went to Tampa at 8. I think we were sat at 10 if memory serves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Gugny said: He was the QB on the team that went to the playoffs. He didn't take that team anywhere. Bills won 9 games in spite of him; not because of him. Completely agree, nothing I hate more than a scared qb playing not to lose. But I see him everytime I think of my greatest moment as a fan. We're moving in the right direction for sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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