BuffaloBaumer Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Maybe I am mis-remembering but wasn't that the only ball he was good at beginning of last year? What the hell happened to it and why is he overthrowing by 5 yards while under-throwing it by a few as well. I have no explanation for this whatsoever but for this offense to click, he REALLY needs to keep teams honest and hit some of these....like how about one? Besides his amazing runs and the the throw he makes on the run from time to time, what throw can he actually make now? This is not to bash the guy at all, I seriously want to know where that long-ball went.... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Just now, BuffaloBaumer said: Maybe I am mis-remembering but wasn't that the only ball he was good at beginning of last year? What the hell happened to it and why is he overthrowing by 5 yards while under-throwing it by a few as well. I have no explanation for this whatsoever but for this offense to click, he REALLY needs to keep teams honest and hit some of these....like how about one? Besides his amazing runs and the the throw he makes on the run from time to time, what throw can he actually make now? This is not to bash the guy at all, I seriously want to know where that long-ball went.... Mechanics 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Just now, BuffaloBaumer said: Maybe I am mis-remembering but wasn't that the only ball he was good at beginning of last year? What the hell happened to it and why is he overthrowing by 5 yards while under-throwing it by a few as well. I have no explanation for this whatsoever but for this offense to click, he REALLY needs to keep teams honest and hit some of these....like how about one? Besides his amazing runs and the the throw he makes on the run from time to time, what throw can he actually make now? This is not to bash the guy at all, I seriously want to know where that long-ball went.... Definitely been thinking the same thing. It seemed like he was stepping into the long throws better last year. I've noticed, especially against the Patriots he was drifting or running backwards while throwing the more low pct throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Didnt seem to have a problem with it last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Watching his throws he doesn't seem to be stepping into them like before. He is just kind of flinging them out there using all arm. I think once he is coached up on this or realizes it himself things will change. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) I think youre misremembering honestly. What deep ball did he ever hit on last year except for the Foster one against the Jags (which was still kind of a crossing route). The only deep ball I can remember hit completing was to Zay against the Chargers but that was 5-10 yards under thrown still. IMO he has never been good at deep balls, people just want him to be because of his arm. But I could be mis-remembering too. Edited October 2, 2019 by jletha 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 The ball he threw deep to Foster in the Bengals game was right on the money in full stride; just a terrific play by the safety to run across the field and leap up and knock it away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 16 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Mechanics Yep- throwing off your back foot is never wise 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Vs the pats his foot work was bad most of the deep throws cam off his back foot. The jones throw right collapsed and he was not able to step into it. The majority of the bad throws in the first half were due to bad footwork 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 21 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: Maybe I am mis-remembering but wasn't that the only ball he was good at beginning of last year? What the hell happened to it and why is he overthrowing by 5 yards while under-throwing it by a few as well. I have no explanation for this whatsoever but for this offense to click, he REALLY needs to keep teams honest and hit some of these....like how about one? Besides his amazing runs and the the throw he makes on the run from time to time, what throw can he actually make now? This is not to bash the guy at all, I seriously want to know where that long-ball went.... i agree. All i got is he spent so much time on the short game that he didn't practice going deep with the WRs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, ILBillsfan said: Vs the pats his foot work was bad most of the deep throws cam off his back foot. The jones throw right collapsed and he was not able to step into it. The majority of the bad throws in the first half were due to bad footwork Yup. Although IMO one of them was intentional. They wanted him to keep backpedaling deep while the Patriots blitzed a few extra rushers and then just lob it deep against single coverage he just overthrew it while backpedaling. He could not have stopped, planted, and then threw even if he wanted to. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 I am thinking that he has been throwing so many picks that he is overcompensating while thinking...well I can't throw another pick so if my guy can't get it, nobody will. The problem is that our guy can never get it either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Patriots seemed to play under coverage in man meaning he has to drop it in a bucket and can't throw those deep crossers as bullets. His poor footwork and drifting in the pocket means hes all arm, and drifting is making the throws way more difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Part of it is that no one's surprised by it this year. Everyone knows who John Brown and Robert Foster are. That doesn't mean they should stop attempting it. Take shots early and often to keep defenses in check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 28 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Yep- throwing off your back foot is never wise did Fouts mention this? i had some music playing during the game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 33 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: Maybe I am mis-remembering but wasn't that the only ball he was good at beginning of last year? What the hell happened to it and why is he overthrowing by 5 yards while under-throwing it by a few as well. I have no explanation for this whatsoever but for this offense to click, he REALLY needs to keep teams honest and hit some of these....like how about one? Besides his amazing runs and the the throw he makes on the run from time to time, what throw can he actually make now? This is not to bash the guy at all, I seriously want to know where that long-ball went.... I’ve been having the same thoughts. I’ve suspected that they have spent so much time working on, and practicing the shorter throws, and plays that the long game has gone a bit by the wayside. I also suspect that it’s more a question of timing with his receivers than him losing the ability to throw long with accuracy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 43 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: Maybe I am mis-remembering but wasn't that the only ball he was good at beginning of last year? What the hell happened to it and why is he overthrowing by 5 yards while under-throwing it by a few as well. I have no explanation for this whatsoever but for this offense to click, he REALLY needs to keep teams honest and hit some of these....like how about one? Besides his amazing runs and the the throw he makes on the run from time to time, what throw can he actually make now? This is not to bash the guy at all, I seriously want to know where that long-ball went.... I think there are several reasons. Mechanics may be one of them, but the mechanics tend to degrade when he's feeling rushed. Deep throws are easier on those rare occasions when the receiver is wide open. There's a huge window and the receiver can make adjustments without fear of the DB causing problems. When the coverage is tight, I think Josh, like many QBs like to err on the side of caution, putting the ball where, if the receiver can't get it, the defender can't either. The result is an overthrow that nobody can catch. This didn't happen on every throw, but it has happened several times this season. Better pass protection will help, as will more separation by receivers. Of course, Josh needs to make better reads too, as he has not seen open receivers on a number of occasions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Nervous feet. It helps tremendously if you set them before you throw. Also, he appears to have forgotten that throwing off your back foot is not recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 48 minutes ago, jletha said: I think youre misremembering honestly. What deep ball did he ever hit on last year except for the Foster one against the Jags (which was still kind of a crossing route). The only deep ball I can remember hit completing was to Zay against the Chargers but that was 5-10 yards under thrown still. IMO he has never been good at deep balls, people just want him to be because of his arm. But I could be mis-remembering too. Yup, it's never been good, though being o-fer at this point is still mildly surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 37 minutes ago, row_33 said: did Fouts mention this? i had some music playing during the game. I don’t know- I was at the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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