LSHMEAB Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: 6-3 in Super Bowls < 4-0. Yeah, I'm gonna have to say absolutely not. How in the world is 6 rings and 9 SB appearances a lesser achievement than 4 rings in 4 tries? We're not talking about a batting title here. Edited November 23, 2019 by LSHMEAB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: Yeah, I don't understand the point. He'll check out the same as pretty much every QB to have played the position; on his last legs. Not quite sure what his career has to do with THIS SEASON. He's the G.O.A.T. in my personal opinion. But he's pretty much done. Both statements can be true. Brady is pretty much done. What more is there for him to accomplish. He has had a career that most QB's could only dream about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 7 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Tiger collapsed catastrophically... seems a lot of the compulsion and obsession that fuel greatness interact with human flaws to cause stumbles too. he has worked himself back into the mix though. cheering for him as always my point was about those badmouthing him every week during the prime of his career yay.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Stop me if you've seen this before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 5 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: 10 championships is still 10 championships. you cannot diminish them with praise for Tainted Tom Remember the Putz got 11 wins with Meh Cassel. He didn’t do squat for Buffalo and he totally sucked when he had to play in Dallas. Brisset and Garoppolo also won a number of games when Tommy was banned for deflate gate The "but Cassel won 11 games years ago!" take has always been so lame. It was also the only season in the past 16 years they didn't make the playoffs. The "number of games" that Garoppolo and Brisset won is "3", combined. How many HOF players did Yogi play with? 9 year after year on the same team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 36 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: The "but Cassel won 11 games years ago!" take has always been so lame. It was also the only season in the past 16 years they didn't make the playoffs. The "number of games" that Garoppolo and Brisset won is "3", combined. How many HOF players did Yogi play with? 9 year after year on the same team. And didn't BB go 5-11 with Drew Bledsoe and start the next season 0-2? I think BB was also a HC in Cleveland, but these are just pesky facts that get in the way of a narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: And didn't BB go 5-11 with Drew Bledsoe and start the next season 0-2? I think BB was also a HC in Cleveland, but these are just pesky facts that get in the way of a narrative. Lombardi has some rough years as coach, so that ruins all his accomplishments to you? you can look him up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 1 minute ago, row_33 said: Lombardi has some rough years as coach, so that ruins all his accomplishments to you? you can look him up... My point wasn't to diminish BB as a HC. I think he may very well be the best of all time. My point was to highlight the fact that BB didn't start winning until he found his QB(Brady). There are people who claim that TB is merely a product of the system and that BB could win with anyone. That narrative is defied by factual history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: 6-3 in Super Bowls < 4-0. So.....you would take the guy with 4 gold medals over the guy with 6 gold medals and 3 silver.... ? How does that make sense ? Edited November 23, 2019 by Iron Maiden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: My point wasn't to diminish BB as a HC. I think he may very well be the best of all time. My point was to highlight the fact that BB didn't start winning until he found his QB(Brady). There are people who claim that TB is merely a product of the system and that BB could win with anyone. That narrative is defied by factual history. To be fair, BB inherited a 3 win Browns team and made it into an 11-5 team and a playoff win with Testeverde and Leroy Hoard..... 3 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: 6-3 in Super Bowls < 4-0. Why? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Just now, Mr. WEO said: To be fair, BB inherited a 3 win Browns team and made it into an 11-5 team and a playoff win with Testeverde and Leroy Hoard..... That's totally fair. My OVERALL point is that there are people who legitimately believe that Charlie Whitehurst could win SB's with BB as HC. It's nonsense and a desperate attempt to diminish what Brady has accomplished. They always conveniently leave out the Bledsoe season as well as his time with the Browns. Is Brady more important? Is BB more important? I don't know. You could make a strong case for either IMO. Kind of strange to be defending TB whilst proclaiming him done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Sundancer said: Stop me if you've seen this before. Actually, I’ve never thought he looked check out before this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: The "but Cassel won 11 games years ago!" take has always been so lame. It was also the only season in the past 16 years they didn't make the playoffs. The "number of games" that Garoppolo and Brisset won is "3", combined. How many HOF players did Yogi play with? 9 year after year on the same team. 11 wins isn’t good enough OK When you have to cheat at least 3 times and have the Refs at your back (Tuck Rule) poo poo that all you want. *** will remain attached to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: 11 wins isn’t good enough OK When you have to cheat at least 3 times and have the Refs at your back (Tuck Rule) poo poo that all you want. *** will remain attached to them. 11 wins wasn't good enough, no. wtf? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: And didn't BB go 5-11 with Drew Bledsoe and start the next season 0-2? I think BB was also a HC in Cleveland, but these are just pesky facts that get in the way of a narrative. Belichick also won 2 SBs as Parcells's defensive coordinator, one we might remember well. You say it's a narrative like it's a speculative Internet theory born from Twatter. Belichick's record as NFL head coach is incomparable, even with a few seasons where he didn't make the playoffs. To point to his very few seasons of where he was not doing well as some kind of counterpoint is weak sauce. Edited November 24, 2019 by Sundancer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 14 hours ago, Sundancer said: Belichick also won 2 SBs as Parcells's defensive coordinator, one we might remember well. You say it's a narrative like it's a speculative Internet theory born from Twatter. Belichick's record as NFL head coach is incomparable, even with a few seasons where he didn't make the playoffs. To point to his very few seasons of where he was not doing well as some kind of counterpoint is weak sauce. Did you miss the part where I said BB may very well be the best HC of all time? Because it seems like you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Tom Brady remains confused about the failure of his clock-killing throw to kill the clock Hey Tom Take a knee!!!!! that will end it OR Snap the ball, run back 5 yards and slide 21 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: Did you miss the part where I said BB may very well be the best HC of all time? Because it seems like you did. Constant blatant cheaters should not get respect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Tom Brady doesn't look like the Tom Brady of even last year imo. I do believe we are finally starting to see the decline in play. If I remember correctly this is how it was the 2014 season towards the end of the year for Manning and then in 2015 he just completely nosedived. It could be that he and the offense miss a weapon like Gronk that much, but I happen to think it is more than that. There isn't enough avocado icecream in the world to stave off Father Time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plano Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Brady is finished, This should be his last year unless he wants to be replaced next season. He is holding the offense back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Plano said: Brady is finished, This should be his last year unless he wants to be replaced next season. He is holding the offense back. 4th most yards passing in the NFL. I wish we had a QB as finished as Brady. (Not a knock on Josh. He's awesome. Just saying, I've seen this Brady is finished thread before.) Edited November 25, 2019 by Sundancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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