MAJBobby Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, jrober38 said: There's no evidence whatsoever that he's learning from his mistakes. He makes the same mistakes pretty much every single game. 3-1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, cd1 said: He may already be afraid and that is why he is morphing into Tyrod (Throw the F-ing Ball) Taylor... He isn’t morphing, he has always held the ball too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said: If Tyrod was playing yesterday we'd have won. Let's not go off the rails, Taylor is a below average QB who never showed any type of improvement as a QB in 3 years. Allen is showing signs of becoming a good QB and with this defense and running game that's all we really need. My faith is shaken but I would like to see how he bounces back in the next 3 games before I pass judgment on Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 17 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said: If Tyrod was playing yesterday we'd have won. I think most people can agree with that honestly. Doesn't mean moving on from him was the wrong decision, or even that picking Allen was the wrong decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Let's not go off the rails, Taylor is a below average QB who never showed any type of improvement as a QB in 3 years. Allen is showing signs of becoming a good QB and with this defense and running game that's all we really need. My faith is shaken but I would like to see how he bounces back in the next 3 games before I pass judgment on Allen. No going off the rails. The point is that a game manager who plays it very careful with the ball was all it took to win that game. Josh wants to improvise every play and be a superhero but he still hasn't gotten used to the idea that he's not head and shoulders better than everyone else on the field like he was in college. I'll go "off the rails" even further: Barkley might have won that game for us if he had played the whole way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) Josh Allen always needed time and experience to be the NFL QB we all want....he was not a finished product out of college....he has progressed this year, still making mistakes but progressing to being an NFL QB. I never thought this season was ever going to be more than an OJT season for him. (On the Job Training) Next year, he will be more polished. He has skills, good attitude, and will mature more when he learns not to try to do to much. He is still running on adrenilin at points, not his brain. That will change. I just hope the hit in the head doesn't ruin him ala Trent Edwards, who was never the same after that guy in Arizona concussed him. Edited September 30, 2019 by bigK14094 MIss spelling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 He held onto the ball even after getting ko'd. He has his faults, he should get better as he gets more experience. I think he was too amped up yesterday and resorted to hero ball again, that should get better as he's in more and more big games. If this game was in NE yesterday I think he would've been more relaxed and we would've won. He's definitely better than last year, but still needs to keep working his tail off on not being such a gunslinger and taking what the defense is giving him. He did that on the first drive of the second half and they went right down the field. There's a lot of good with Josh, there's been improvement in several areas over last year, but yesterday proved he's still a work in progress. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Young QBs, even good ones, usually have issues with turning the ball over and making stupid plays for a while. Peyton Manning threw 28 INTs as a rookie. Brett Favre fumbled 26 times in his first two seasons in Green Bay. Josh Allen may or may not make it, but this type of stuff is not uncommon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said: No going off the rails. The point is that a game manager who plays it very careful with the ball was all it took to win that game. Josh wants to improvise every play and be a superhero but he still hasn't gotten used to the idea that he's not head and shoulders better than everyone else on the field like he was in college. I'll go "off the rails" even further: Barkley might have won that game for us if he had played the whole way. Barkley is a backup QB who might win you a game if your QB is injured for 3 weeks. Allen is still a young QB who needs to learn a lot of things. I'm hoping to see Allen reset and get back on track and I'm praying that we don't have to see Barkley start one game this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Great thread. Fantastic. Original content. Really.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Josh Allen’s down field accuracy is very alarming. He’s just throwing line drives down field with no touch. He’s got me depressed this morning and I’ve been the guy’s biggest fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: how many lost fumbles? That's not how this works, Bobby. You can't be a team that preaches process and then argue that bad process is good just because you're lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, pop gun said: Allen is so far beyond what Taylor is it's a shame you can't see it. How quickly we forget. Tyrod in his first season was really good. He did have that annoying habit of holding the ball too long, but that was to avoid making a mistake. Allen holds it too long and then uncorks it into double coverage. I’m no Allen hater; there’s a good chance he’ll fix this. But Tyrod was a revelation for us until defenses figured out how to force his weaknesses to become more apparent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, cd1 said: He may already be afraid and that is why he is morphing into Tyrod (Throw the F-ing Ball) Taylor... Yeah. Okay. Take a nap, brother. Allen is a lot of things, but afraid isn't one of them. I swear, some of you dudes need to just stop watching fooptball and turn to watching professional bowling or poker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: 3-1 I don’t even know why coaches watch game film to evaluate players. It’s obviously much, much easier than they realize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: so really he has 4 Fumbles. Not 13 thanks. But if you want to use 13 then fine QBs have Fumbles. Ask Brady and his 52 or Mahomes and his 11 Or Watson and his 16 Brady has been playing 20 years. 20! Allen has 25% the fumbles in like 8% of the games played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, billsfan1959 said: For the love of God! Is this what this forum is going to be all week? Yep. As soon as Allen had a bad game, you just knew the pitchforks and torches would be in full force. It's the nature of this board. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, billsfan1959 said: For the love of God! Is this what this forum is going to be all week? Yes. Will be a good week to stay buried in work ? Love me some TBD, but I really enjoyed the game much more yesterday by NOT checking the board... And Josh is becoming Tyrod?? SMH 2 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Yep. As soon as Allen had a bad game, you just knew the pitchforks and torches would be in full force. It's the nature of this board. You know my pitchfork is ALWAYS lit! Edited September 30, 2019 by Heitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: so really he has 4 Fumbles. Not 13 thanks. But if you want to use 13 then fine QBs have Fumbles. Ask Brady and his 52 or Mahomes and his 11 Or Watson and his 16 It’s not that simple though. Eventually his incredible luck when it comes to fumble recoveries, dropped/reversed INTs, etc., is going to flip. The fact is Josh isn’t protecting the football. He can continue improving in all the other areas we’ve all been discussing since last year but if he keeps giving the other teams so many chances at takeaways it isn’t going to work. Also, compare his TOV% to those other guys not just raw numbers with no context. It’s not close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: Yeah. Okay. Take a nap, brother. Allen is a lot of things, but afraid isn't one of them. I swear, some of you dudes need to just stop watching fooptball and turn to watching professional bowling or poker. Don't get me wrong. I am a huge Josh Allen fan. BUT When he could find no receiver to throw the ball to he also seemed to revert to hero (emotional) ball. IF he had kept his wits about him, he could have thrown the ball out of bounds. Josh Allen has to learn to throw the ball away. All that said - The play calling was terrible. Daboll did Josh Allen no favors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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