dave mcbride Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I agree. Part of the problem here though is that they are trying to make a young John Elway be a seasoned Tom Brady with this offense. People don't want to hear it but he's not ready to run this style of offense efficiently. When he will be I don't know. They are committed to it this season due to personnel decisions......... unless they make a move for a big field stretching/contested ball winning WR like AJ Green. But right now they are making Allen execute long drives when his skillset SCREAMS big plays. Stretch the defense vertically and hit them with the run. Currently the net result is a lot of encouraging plays to hang your hat on and say "maybe Josh can do this" but a TON of turnovers and few points. Playing this offense is Sean McDermott's defensive dream........tons of opportunities for game changing mistakes...........very little threat of big play. It feels like this offense is doing something.....but it's not.........it's just fiddling around until late in the game when Josh can run around and make plays against a tired opponent. And it sure seems that in reigning him in he's lost his touch on the throws that make him special. Disagree to an extent in that he HAS had plenty of deep-shot chances, and he has taken them, and often enough guys have been open. He's just been abjectly failing to date. Edited October 2, 2019 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Based on his participation in individual drills today would say I would say he is in Stage 4 of the protocol. Football Specific Activities. The player continues cardiovascular, strength and balance training and participates in non-contact football activities. Next Step to be fully cleared Friday and will play Sunday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Just now, PaattMaann said: oh grammar nazis, how clever, first time anyones every done that Just the facts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Ta111 said: Agreed it’s the same playbook, but you will probably use it differently based upon the QB’s strengths and weaknesses. He will also have different habits. Allen might chuck the deep ball where Barkley might just dump it off for instance. Allen might try to take off and run where Barkley might stand and deliver. Defenses have to approach these QBs differently because they have different styles. It’s not just about playbooks. Most of the NFL has the same playbooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plano Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: oh grammar nazis, how clever, first time anyones every done that *ever 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: How many stages are there? 5 https://www.playsmartplaysafe.com/newsroom/videos/nfl-head-neck-spine-committees-concussion-protocol-overview/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: oh grammar nazis, how clever, first time anyones every done that anyone's 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Based on his participation in individual drills today would say I would say he is in Stage 4 of the protocol. Football Specific Activities. The player continues cardiovascular, strength and balance training and participates in non-contact football activities. Next Step to be fully cleared Friday and will play Sunday. Such great news for Josh. I am going to believe this means he is feeling better and has been able to sleep the last couple nights. I also love that Tenn has to prepare for both Barkley and Allen. Although I’m not totally sure what more or different you would have to prepare for Barkley than Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Just now, atlbillsfan1975 said: I also love that Tenn has to prepare for both Barkley and Allen. Although I’m not totally sure what more or different you would have to prepare for Barkley than Allen. One can throw and one can't? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Just now, atlbillsfan1975 said: Such great news for Josh. I am going to believe this means he is feeling better and has been able to sleep the last couple nights. I also love that Tenn has to prepare for both Barkley and Allen. Although I’m not totally sure what more or different you would have to prepare for Barkley than Allen. I mean there is a difference between a guy that fires bullets and one that fires pellets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 48 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I agree. Part of the problem here though is that they are trying to make a young John Elway be a seasoned Tom Brady with this offense. People don't want to hear it but he's not ready to run this style of offense efficiently. When he will be I don't know. They are committed to it this season due to personnel decisions......... unless they make a move for a big field stretching/contested ball winning WR like AJ Green. But right now they are making Allen execute long drives when his skillset SCREAMS big plays. Stretch the defense vertically and hit them with the run. Currently the net result is a lot of encouraging plays to hang your hat on and say "maybe Josh can do this" but a TON of turnovers and few points. Playing this offense is Sean McDermott's defensive dream........tons of opportunities for game changing mistakes...........very little threat of big play. It feels like this offense is doing something.....but it's not.........it's just fiddling around until late in the game when Josh can run around and make plays against a tired opponent. And it sure seems that in reigning him in he's lost his touch on the throws that make him special. I’m not sure whose dream it is - I’ve been wondering aloud whether Daboll wants to prove to the league he knows how to implement the New England offense, so as to set himself up for a head coaching opportunity this offseason - the Belichick coaching tree keeps getting hired, he may be trying to strike while the iron is hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 26 minutes ago, Plano said: YOU'RE***** YOU'RE******* WHY IS THIS SO FRIGGIN HARD FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND???? just relax. We are all Bill’s fans here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Just now, atlbillsfan1975 said: Such great news for Josh. I am going to believe this means he is feeling better and has been able to sleep the last couple nights. I also love that Tenn has to prepare for both Barkley and Allen. Although I’m not totally sure what more or different you would have to prepare for Barkley than Allen. If Tenn is smart they should be Preparing for the better QB and that is Allen, easier to adjust to Barkley than the other way around 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: One can throw and one can't? Haha. I mean, if I am Tenn I just prepare for Allen and if he doesn’t go than I adjust down, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: I mean there is a difference between a guy that fires bullets and one that fires pellets. Inaccurate bullets Vs accurate pellets. ( Most of the time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: I mean there is a difference between a guy that fires bullets and one that fires pellets. That’s what I mean. Prepare for Allen. The offensive game plan has been a ton of underneath routes so far. This is what I would think Barkley would excel at, if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: I’m not sure whose dream it is - I’ve been wondering aloud whether Daboll wants to prove to the league he knows how to implement the New England offense, so as to set himself up for a head coaching opportunity this offseason - the Belichick coaching tree keeps getting hired, he may be trying to strike while the iron is hot. More troublesome to me is his unwillingness to go up tempo for long stretches. Josh seems to enjoy and do well with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 4:31 PM, YoloinOhio said: Really good D coming up next week too Ranked 14 overall- a little above average but always tough to measure this early in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Haha. I mean, if I am Tenn I just prepare for Allen and if he doesn’t go than I adjust down, right? Yup. They have to prepare for Allen, I would say 90%-10%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: That’s what I mean. Prepare for Allen. The offensive game plan has been a ton of underneath routes so far. This is what I would think Barkley would excel at, if anything. Didn't the browns play a SERIES with Quinn and a series with Anderson years ago? ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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