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Rewatching the Pats game # 2 last year

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A few thoughts from the game: 

It wasn’t as bad as I remembered. In fact if a few plays go our way (E.G. Robert foster catches the BOMB Allen threw him very early in the game, Hosch-$$$ drills that 43 yarder on the following possession, then we kick a FG instead of going for it on 4 and 3 prior to halftime,  Croom doesn’t fumble inside the Pats 5 yard line) and we are very much in that game.

 

Add in our crowd instead of their home field advantage, the additions we made to our OLine and WR Corps and I think the -7 spread is honestly a bit high. Gimme the Bills and the over. The key to the game will be how we defend their running game. 

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28 minutes ago, billvernsays said:

A few thoughts from the game: 

It wasn’t as bad as I remembered. In fact if a few plays go our way

(E.G. Robert foster catches the BOMB Allen there him very early in the game, Hosch-$$$ frills that 43 yarder, we kick a FG instead of going for it on 4 and 3, Croom doesn’t fumble inside the Pats 5 yard line) we are very much in that game. Add in our crowd instead of their home field advantage, the additions we made to our OLine and WR Corps and I think the -7 spread is honestly a bit high. Gimme the Bills and the over. The key to the game will be how we defend their running game. 

I just looked at it and came away thinking the same way. If we could have stopped the run and like you said hit on a couple of plays that we missed it would have been a competitive game

 

If New England plays on Sunday like they played in week 16 against us I think we can win this game. Remember no Gronk and now no FB as well to help them in the run game. 

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Let’s hope Edmunds shows up this weekend because he was nowhere to be found against the Bungles.

 

 

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5 hours ago, billvernsays said:

A few thoughts from the game: 

It wasn’t as bad as I remembered. In fact if a few plays go our way (E.G. Robert foster catches the BOMB Allen there him very early in the game, Hosch-$$$ drills that 43 yarder on the following possession, then we kick a FG instead of going for it on 4 and 3 prior to halftime,  Croom doesn’t fumble inside the Pats 5 yard line) and we are very much in that game.

 

Add in our crowd instead of their home field advantage, the additions we made to our OLine and WR Corps and I think the -7 spread is honestly a bit high. Gimme the Bills and the over. The key to the game will be how we defend their running game. 

Betting the over on this game is implying that at least one of the 2 VERY GOOD defenses doesn't show up.  If we are going to win this thing I feel like we want the Bills and the under.  

 

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37 minutes ago, Mc1320 said:

Let’s hope Edmunds shows up this weekend because he was nowhere to be found against the Bungles.

 

 

Bingo. Edmunds is the key on defense. Belichick and Brady attacked him last year in the first game. IF the Bills win this game, I expect Edmunds will of made a few big plays. 

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42 minutes ago, Mc1320 said:

Let’s hope Edmunds shows up this weekend because he was nowhere to be found against the Bungles.

 

 

 

His play against the run has been generally lousy thus far this season 

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5 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

His play against the run has been generally lousy thus far this season 

Yep.... my worry about him coming into the year. 

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9 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Yep.... my worry about him coming into the year. 

 

Same, but he's been great in coverage and he's an excellent blitzer, so he's not exactly a liability out there.

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We were also missing Milano last year. There was a lot of miscommunication with the LBs in that game which allowed the Patriots to run all over us. Not saying Milano was the difference, but it will help having him back.

 

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6 hours ago, Protocal69 said:

I just looked at it and came away thinking the same way. If we could have stopped the run and like you said hit on a couple of plays that we missed it would have been a competitive game

 

If New England plays on Sunday like they played in week 16 against us I think we can win this game. Remember no Gronk and now no FB as well to help them in the run game. 

 Edelman also has a chest contusion. While I think he will play, i think he will be limited and I doubt they send him in the slot to get jacked up and put out of the game. 

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Buffalo limited Bell and Barkley.  Buffalo will be in the game.  McDermott has a pretty good read on what they do offensively.  Oliver could make an impact with interior pressure.  Imo it comes down to how aggressive McDermott allows the offense to be.  Paired with how many point ending mistakes do they make.  

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Both games were winnable last year.

 

The Pats are certainly one of the best teams in the NFL right now (if not the best); however, they are not unbeatable. The Bills do not have to play a perfect game to beat them. They just have to consistently play to their ability on both sides of the ball and not beat themselves with critical penalties and turnovers.

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15 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

Buffalo limited Bell and Barkley.  Buffalo will be in the game.  McDermott has a pretty good read on what they do offensively.  Oliver could make an impact with interior pressure.  Imo it comes down to how aggressive McDermott allows the offense to be.  Paired with how many point ending mistakes do they make.  

 

Josh has got to be smarter with the ball once we're in FG range.  He took points off the board on two drives Sunday with careless errors.

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32 minutes ago, BigPappy said:

 Edelman also has a chest contusion. While I think he will play, i think he will be limited and I doubt they send him in the slot to get jacked up and put out of the game. 

I hope they do😈

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11 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Josh has got to be smarter with the ball once we're in FG range.  He took points off the board on two drives Sunday with careless errors.

Absolutely. This offense has consistently moved the ball well for 3 quarters of each game. It is not their ability that has hampered them. Critical (meaning when and where they happen) turnovers, mental mistakes (i.e.; the intentional grounding), and penalties, as well as horrific 3rd quarter play are the difference between 22 pts per game and having to win close games - and 31+ points per game and the games not being close.

 

Clean those things up and this team can beat New England.

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2 hours ago, Tenhigh said:

Betting the over on this game is implying that at least one of the 2 VERY GOOD defenses doesn't show up.  If we are going to win this thing I feel like we want the Bills and the under.  

 

Not exactly.

 

I think the odds makers will know that 2 very good defenses are playing each other and that will be the narrative which in turn will push the over/under DOWN.

 

The reality is the Bills and the Pats have played some BAD offenses each of the past 3 weeks.

 

Me saying the game will go over doesn’t mean it’ll be a high scoring affair it just needs to get over the line Vegas thinks will get even money on the game.

 

I believe it’s will be lower than the reality which is why you should buck the trend and go against the public narrative.

 

Bills and the Over Baby!!

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i hope they decide to kick shaq inside. keep murphy out there and let lorax call the pass rush and line up at the line at times. MARSHAL NEWHOUSE is starting at left tackle and they have a backup at center.  hughes should have a good game and milano should have a clear path. if they kick shaq inside next to oliver, edmunds should also have a clear path.

 

i really hope they get creative because opportunity is knocking to put brady on his ass!

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Patriots got better too, though, on defense especially. Without Gronk, though, that should bring their offense down a notch.

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11 hours ago, billvernsays said:

A few thoughts from the game: 

It wasn’t as bad as I remembered. In fact if a few plays go our way (E.G. Robert foster catches the BOMB Allen threw him very early in the game, Hosch-$$$ drills that 43 yarder on the following possession, then we kick a FG instead of going for it on 4 and 3 prior to halftime,  Croom doesn’t fumble inside the Pats 5 yard line) and we are very much in that game.

 

Add in our crowd instead of their home field advantage, the additions we made to our OLine and WR Corps and I think the -7 spread is honestly a bit high. Gimme the Bills and the over. The key to the game will be how we defend their running game. 

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6 hours ago, eball said:

 

Josh has got to be smarter with the ball once we're in FG range.  He took points off the board on two drives Sunday with careless errors.

 

So did Yeldon with the fumble and Sweeney or Knox (can't remember which) with the drop at the 4 yard line.

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13 hours ago, billvernsays said:

A few thoughts from the game: 

It wasn’t as bad as I remembered. In fact if a few plays go our way (E.G. Robert foster catches the BOMB Allen threw him very early in the game, Hosch-$$$ drills that 43 yarder on the following possession, then we kick a FG instead of going for it on 4 and 3 prior to halftime,  Croom doesn’t fumble inside the Pats 5 yard line) and we are very much in that game.

 

Add in our crowd instead of their home field advantage, the additions we made to our OLine and WR Corps and I think the -7 spread is honestly a bit high. Gimme the Bills and the over. The key to the game will be how we defend their running game. 

Thats a LOT of if this or that and then this happens.  That said two different teams this year. Pats have gotten better on the D line (it appears) and our CB are very good and been together for a couple years now.  I dont see the Bills scoring more than 17,  I say that because you average 22 and I believe the Pats D is the best you will have faced to this point and 17 be 6X more than anyone put on the Pats since KC in the AFCCG game.  Bills could def win but IMO your D this time has to win it. 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Mc1320 said:

Let’s hope Edmunds shows up this weekend because he was nowhere to be found against the Bungles.

 

 

Interesting because I just saw a tweet that said he was everywhere

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