VW82 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Our defense is the main reason we're currently 3-0 (besides the NFL schedule makers) but I worry about how we'll fair once we start facing better offenses. It seems like any time a team gets within our 20 yard line we give up a TD. We're 4-4 so far this year. Last year we had one of the worst red zone defenses in the league despite being 3rd in total yards allowed. Anyone want to venture a guess as to why we're so stout defensively everywhere on the field except near our own end zone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, VW82 said: Our defense is the main reason we're currently 3-0 (besides the NFL schedule makers) but I worry about how we'll fair once we start facing better offenses. It seems like any time a team gets within our 20 yard line we give up a TD. We're 4-4 so far this year. Last year we had one of the worst red zone defenses in the league despite being 3rd in total yards allowed. Anyone want to venture a guess as to why we're so stout defensively everywhere on the field except near our own end zone? I think they get conservative in pass rush inside the 20, choosing to rush four and drop the LBs into coverage. I'd like to see them be a bit more aggressive in blitzing, but's that's a double-edged sword. And the percetages seem to favor McD/Frasier's scheme... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, Lurker said: I think they get conservative in pass rush inside the 20, choosing to rush four and drop the LBs into coverage. I'd like to see them be a bit more aggressive in blitzing, but's that's a double-edged sword. And the percetages seem to favor McD/Frasier's scheme... I hadn't noticed that. Will have to pay more attention to the rush next time we're down there. One thing I have noticed is we don't seem to be able to stop teams once they get in rhythm on a drive. Maybe it's as simple as us being too tired to resist after a long drive?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, VW82 said: Our defense is the main reason we're currently 3-0 (besides the NFL schedule makers) but I worry about how we'll fair once we start facing better offenses. It seems like any time a team gets within our 20 yard line we give up a TD. We're 4-4 so far this year. Last year we had one of the worst red zone defenses in the league despite being 3rd in total yards allowed. Anyone want to venture a guess as to why we're so stout defensively everywhere on the field except near our own end zone? I think part of it is that the Bills were "reeling" on most or all 4 of those. Momentum is real, and the Bills have been on the wrong end of that on those TDs. Edited September 22, 2019 by Drunken Pygmy Goat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Our Defense lacks a true game changing pass rusher and it shows in situations where we want to only send 4 guys. There are times our defense can get pressure with 4, but in the red-zone and playing prevent is when having a guy who wins 1-on-1 every single time helps as it forces the OL to shift protection, causing the other guys to get better opportunities. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Like John McKay, I'm in favor of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 The Frazier D is predicated on “ keeping everything in front of you”. That gets harder to do near the goal line , and they don’t have any elite pass rushers coming off the edge to wreck plays. It’s an issue for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Our Defense lacks a true game changing pass rusher and it shows in situations where we want to only send 4 guys. There are times our defense can get pressure with 4, but in the red-zone and playing prevent is when having a guy who wins 1-on-1 every single time helps as it forces the OL to shift protection, causing the other guys to get better opportunities. It is this. We are a great team defense. But down in the redzone you need someone to come up and beat their guy 1 on 1. We don't have that person at the moment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: It is this. We are a great team defense. But down in the redzone you need someone to come up and beat their guy 1 on 1. We don't have that person at the moment. I think we have some guys who can push the 1 on 1 matchups and win, but the difference is we don't have anyone who can force the OL to shift their entire blocking scheme. That's what we need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Frazier needs to adjust his playcalling on the D in the redzone. I agree with everyone who notes we don't have a game-changing pass rusher, but given the talent we currently have, to change it this year, Frazier needs to blitz more in the redzone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 To everyone saying we don't have a game changing pass rusher...Jerry Hughes was 3rd overall last year in pressure% behind Aaron Donald and Khalil Mack. Pretty sure that counts as elite. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I view our defense as Top 10 with every level (DL, LB, Secondary) above average, but none of them elite. We’re not going to be pitching shutouts but the Bengals have a potent offense and were held to 17 points. That wins you 90% of games in the NFL. I agree with most above that we should blitz more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Drunken Pygmy Goat said: I think part of it is that the Bills were "reeling" on most or all 4 of those. Momentum is real, and the Bills have been on the wrong end of that on those TDs. I’d probably get behind that idea. The scores we’ve given up have been when we were just flat in general. I’d say the rest of the time we have been super solid. Solid enough that we haven’t give up that many red zone drives to begin with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Drunken Pygmy Goat said: I think part of it is that the Bills were "reeling" on most or all 4 of those. Momentum is real, and the Bills have been on the wrong end of that on those TDs. We were near the bottom of the league last year though so it's a problem . The bend but don't break philosophy along with the vanilla coverage schemes exposes that work so well for them outside the red zone hurt them inside it. You don't really see coverage break downs but just precise passing by the quarterbacks. They have to be more aggressive both at the line of scrimmage and in the secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 They let a really bad team score 17 in a row in the second half, coughing up a 2 TD halftime lead. There's no way it should have been that close at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: They let a really bad team score 17 in a row in the second half, coughing up a 2 TD halftime lead. There's no way it should have been that close at the end. Nice to be 3-0 still so much improvement to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, row_33 said: Nice to be 3-0 still so much improvement to go I'm going to assume you are pretending to misunderstand the topic of this thread and my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, Mr. WEO said: I'm going to assume you are pretending to misunderstand the topic of this thread and my post. whatever thrills you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: whatever thrills you I mean you can join the discussion if you have something to contribute other than "3-0 means everything is perfect" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Lack of pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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