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50 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

I don't think those planes have a 3rd (jump) seat in the cockpit...

 

They ALL do. 737’s have one, 757s have one or two depending on model. 

2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

That seems highly unlikely, but it’s possible a charter flight might get away with having a person in the cockpit who isn’t cleared for it.  On the other hand, it’s highly surprising a charter pilot/copilot would accept this.  The usual rule is “sterile cockpit below 10,000 feet” though, meaning only necessary and flight-related communications between the PF and the PNF that leg (pilot flying and pilot not flying) and if distraction led to an incident or accident it would be their butt in the sling

 

Now they might have been asked to let him into the cockpit and give him a tour and explain what they do, when and why while they were on the ground.  I could see where that might help a nervous flyer.

 

 

I was thinking that myself.  

 

I didn't make it up. 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, MJS said:

Night Train by Jimmy Forrest

 

Definitely had to be played in Burlesque shows.

2 hours ago, RocCityRoller said:

.....it was a joke playing with the differences in time between Nightrain Lane and GNR, which to someone under 30 would effectively be the same.

Now he can go Wikipedia what Burlesque means.

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This thread reminds me of a conversation George Constaza had with Keith Hernandez. 

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I fly ALOT. 

Once or twice a month. Usually long distances over an ocean. 

 

I used to be petrified of flying when I was younger but it went away after I got married and my wife was even worse than I was. I had to be strong for her. 

 

Now I make jokes about my plane crashing. Turbulence excites me. 

I watch Mayday on my iPad during the flight.

 

You have to have a huge ego to believe YOUR plane is going to crash. It’s totally irrational. 

The odds are astronomical. Like 1 in 10 million. Especially lower if you travel in North America. 

We all know it’s the safest way to travel. 

You just have to surrender control and that’s very difficult for some. 

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8 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...The "Birth of the Madden Cruiser"?......

 

...check this out ...$2.489 MILLION for a "cruiser"............

http://www.featherlitecoaches.com/inventory/featherlite-vantare-prevost-3915/

 

 

Actually initially it was Amtrak, then switched to the cruiser.

 

Pluse with all the expansion, likely many of the southern cities weren't even served by Amtrak.

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7 hours ago, HansLanda said:

 

They ALL do. 737’s have one, 757s have one or two depending on model. 

 

I didn't make it up. 

 

 

 

 

I didn’t think you made it up, but “put him in the cockpit” could be interpreted different ways - put him in for a tour pre- flight? Let him ride there?  

 

Im not saying it couldn’t be true, I’m just saying I’m surprised if a professional flight crew would accept the need to explain everything they were doing to a large human who might freak out, during departure and arrival phases of flight.

 

”is he clear, that Pan Am?”

 

 

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NFL charters are usually 757's or 767's, except the London stuff.

They have two jumpseats.

Not likely that anyone sits in the jumpseat, but it used to be possible on charters.

 

Only a few of situations where the same guy flies a team on all away games.

I know that the Cowboys and Dolphins used to have the same captains for their road games, but there are contractual requirements that are involved.

The guy who used to fly the Dolphins had to trade out of his weekly trip in order to fly the Sat/Sun charter. He was a bit senior to me and always flew mid week Paris trips. I always took his trip so he could do the charter. 

Jim Ritcher flew a Dolphin charter to Buffalo as first officer once.

 

Quick story involving a Dolphin charter that involved a captain different than the one above.

Dolphins were coming back to Fort Lauderdale from an LA game.

There was a weak hurricane, but a hurricane nonetheless in South Florida. 

Jimmy Johnson was the head coach and he insisted that they land in Fort Lauderdale.

Captain tells him to get back to his seat and they are going to land In Ft. Meyers.

Argument ensues and Jimmy tells him that if they don't land in Fort Lauderdale, he is going to blast the airline in his Monday press conference. Captain tells him it is far too dangerous and he doesn't care about Jimmy's threat and to get back to his seat.

They land in Fort Meyers and Jimmy whines about it in his Monday media thing.

 

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16 hours ago, Rocket94 said:

I took a Bus from Buffalo to San Diego when I young for the experience. I would not recommend it. Long and grueling and full of characters. Who do you meet on a bus? Escaped mental patients, the indigent, the haunted!

True, riding the Dirty Dog is nasty. Lots of people on the fringe; usually a few folks who were handed tickets by local police and told to get out of town, where they can be someone else's problem. I've seen desperate people loading all of their belongings, which are in trash bags, into the cargo hold. 

 

But I doubt that's the kind of bus you ride when you're an NFL baller. 

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12 hours ago, HansLanda said:

 

They ALL do. 737’s have one, 757s have one or two depending on model. 

 

I didn't make it up. 

 

 

 

Since we are talking about Kiko, I'm sure the explanation went something like this:

 

 

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2 hours ago, skibum said:

True, riding the Dirty Dog is nasty. Lots of people on the fringe; usually a few folks who were handed tickets by local police and told to get out of town, where they can be someone else's problem. I've seen desperate people loading all of their belongings, which are in trash bags, into the cargo hold. 

 

But I doubt that's the kind of bus you ride when you're an NFL baller. 

True. I would not envision any professional athlete doing this. This was just a particular experience that I had at that time. 

1 hour ago, HOUSE said:
Image result for how often do airplanes crash, only once

These things go down!

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Knew a guy who played on college team who could not get over fear of flying.  He missed one flight and when team returned head coach talked to him.  He talked to team doctor and on games where it was not possible for him to take an overnight bus they would bring a wheelchair and he would take medication just before flight.  Airline was told ahead of time and it was approved for medical reasons.  Ironically post college he worked for FAA as a traffic controller which is how I met him when working on FAA system.

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On 9/20/2019 at 2:53 PM, ALLEN1QB said:

So funny you started this thread today I was just thinking getting close to retirement my wife wants to do a lot of traveling going to be an issue because I am terrified of flying. Have not been on a plane for over 25 years.

 

Drugs are the answer! (What was the question?)  Seriously, for the sake of the marriage. 

 

 

23 hours ago, Bakin said:

I fly ALOT. 

Once or twice a month. Usually long distances over an ocean. 

 

I used to be petrified of flying when I was younger but it went away after I got married and my wife was even worse than I was. I had to be strong for her. 

 

Now I make jokes about my plane crashing. Turbulence excites me. 

I watch Mayday on my iPad during the flight.

 

You have to have a huge ego to believe YOUR plane is going to crash. It’s totally irrational. 

The odds are astronomical. Like 1 in 10 million. Especially lower if you travel in North America. 

We all know it’s the safest way to travel. 

You just have to surrender control and that’s very difficult for some. 

 

 

For awhile I wasn't a big fan of flying. Takeoffs were the worst for me. After that is was mostly OK. During landing I always figured a good pilot could land the plane somewhere, even if it wasn't perfect. 

 

But I found getting a bit plowed before getting on the plane relaxed me enough to settle in. Now I'm like you. I tend to put my arms in the air and go "Weeee!" when there is bad turbulence. It used to really piss off my boss who was terrified to fly and always wanted to sit next to me. She dig her nails into my skin if anything at all happened in flight. When I'd shout "Weeee!" during the worst of the turbulence, she'd start beating the crap out of me---while laughing. But she was more relaxed afterward. There was a method to my madness.

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I don’t mind flying, it’s the hours-long delays and  needless hassles the whole step of the way to get into the air

 

 

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