thronethinker Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) 12th Man really was a factor when Rich Stadium sat 83,000 people in the early 90's and you could completely get in the heads of visiting teams. Crowd noise was much louder then. Bills Mafia is more fitting today. Edited September 18, 2019 by thronethinker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BuffaloBill Posted September 18, 2019 Author Share Posted September 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, thronethinker said: 12th Man really was a factor when Rich Stadium sat 83,000 people in the early 90's and you could completely get in the heads of visiting teams. Crowd noise was much louder then. Have you been to a home game since then? The crowd is loud.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Yes to #BillsMafia Viva Los Bills!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thronethinker Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Just now, BuffaloBill said: Have you been to a home game since then? The crowd is loud.... Indeed I have, many times and the crowd is loud. However, it is not close to the level it used to be when the stadium was at full capacity of 83000+. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: The whole “12th man” thing isn’t Bills. I just hate things that we stole (hence my issues with “process”). The “Bills Mafia” thing at least belongs to us. It is unique to us. If we want to recognize the fan base I’d rather recognize Bills fans than “generic football fan base.” That’s what 12th man is. It is every teams fans. I like the idea of us vs. everyone else. Whether you like Bills Mafia or not it isn’t something that we are sharing. I totally agree, 12th man is generic and we deserve better than that. My point is Mafia is slightly better than Bills rapists. (OK, that’s slightly extreme!) The Mafia is renowned for (and exists because of) it’s illegal and egregiously evil behavior. Not my idea of a good nickname. Maybe that's just me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 I think the team may change it if we make them an offer they cannot refuse. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Just change it to MEAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thronethinker Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: I think the team may change it if we make them an offer they cannot refuse. Owners better hide their horses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 good question. to me "mafia" sounds bad. however, we have Cornhuskers, Redskins,Yankees,Buccaneers,Raiders,Devils,the list goes on and on of "derogatory" names.I'm under the opinion of no harm, no foul. its just a nickname. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 minute ago, mead107 said: Just change it to MEAD. Do I get coins if I vote for this? Maybe stromnboli? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: I think the team may change it if we make them an offer they cannot refuse. 2 1sts, and a player to be named later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, thronethinker said: Indeed I have, many times and the crowd is loud. However, it is not close to the level it used to be when the stadium was at full capacity of 83000+. That's because the team has sucked for like 26 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: 2 1sts, and a player to be named later? I was thinking more like “Think strongly about it and no one gets hurt” but yours might work, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Augie said: I totally agree, 12th man is generic and we deserve better than that. My point is Mafia is slightly better than Bills rapists. (OK, that’s slightly extreme!) The Mafia is renowned for (and exists because of) it’s illegal and egregiously evil behavior. Not my idea of a good nickname. Maybe that's just me. But we're not like the cold-blooded sociopathic mafia. We're the romanticized Hollywood version. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 I don't really have a problem with the Bills Mafia thing, but I don't see any reason to switch it out with 12th man. There are some who really hate the Bills Mafia thing. Those people would probably cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) The national media citing the Bills Mafia label is more embarrassing than losing 4 straight SB's, O.J. and 17 seasons of missing the playoffs combined. It wreaks of a fan base desperate and insecure by those who seek to be identified as such imo. Edited September 18, 2019 by I am the egg man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rob's House said: But we're not like the cold-blooded sociopathic mafia. We're the romanticized Hollywood version. Where they cut away and just show the less bloody scenes to sanitize things to get to PG-13 or R ratings? Could Buffalo just be the neat and tidy Hollywood Mafia? I’m afraid Hollywood might object to a Buffalo connection! Life is complicated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, Augie said: Do I get coins if I vote for this? Maybe stromnboli? Absolutely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Rob's House said: But we're not like the cold-blooded sociopathic mafia. We're the romanticized Hollywood version. Just don't call us Fredo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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