78thealltimegreat Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Man if McDermott loses to these guys the next 2-3 years he should just hand in his resignation...Maybe trading the team bus soon if they can acquire a 6th...but when you have a team openly tanking like this makes you think might be time for a draft lottery in the nfl as this is essentially a homecoming weekend for anyone on their schedule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Man if McDermott loses to these guys the next 2-3 years he should just hand in his resignation...Maybe trading the team bus soon if they can acquire a 6th...but when you have a team openly tanking like this makes you think might be time for a draft lottery in the nfl as this is essentially a homecoming weekend for anyone on their schedule I thought they were selling stadium seats next, it's not like they're using them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Well we need to start preparing to play Tua or Justin Herbert for the next 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 trust the process baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 5 hours ago, BruceVilanch said: Well we need to start preparing to play Tua or Justin Herbert for the next 10 years. Not worried about either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Except in the NBA you only need 2 or 3 great players....building a football team from nothing is more difficult. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Fins might wait for Trevor Lawrence . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 31 minutes ago, gjv001 said: Fins might wait for Trevor Lawrence . Yep. This is a Browns style tank ... all the way down to (possibly) 0-16, not this year, but next year. They're accumulating tons of draft capital - I think it's now 7 picks in the first two rounds? They can pull off whatever trade they want to to get their guy, and I suspect that Rosen will be their Deshon Kizer bridge sacrificial lamb, with maybe Lawrence on the radar for 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Yep. This is a Browns style tank ... all the way down to (possibly) 0-16, not this year, but next year. They're accumulating tons of draft capital - I think it's now 7 picks in the first two rounds? They can pull off whatever trade they want to to get their guy, and I suspect that Rosen will be their Deshon Kizer bridge sacrificial lamb, with maybe Lawrence on the radar for 2021. If this is a browns style tank we should expect the Dolphins to be good in 2029 - 2030 ish (and that is assuming they are good this year, and the jury is still out on that)? Edited September 17, 2019 by Klaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 11 hours ago, Klaus said: If this is a browns style tank we should expect the Dolphins to be good in 2029 - 2030 ish (and that is assuming they are good this year, and the jury is still out on that)? Yeah. It can take a while, and nothing is guaranteed. But ... they could be decent as soon as 2022, and really good after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 The difficulty for the Fins becomes the Front Office and Coaching. They are going to be historically bad this year. Do they keep the HC and FO and draft with them in mind? I think they are still going to be super bad next year - so if they make a change at that point - now potentially all of the picks are wasted with new schemes. If they keep them - they are still going to struggle and potentially have 2 years of multiple picks wasted. This is where the Browns failed - they didn’t clean house and put together picks at the same time - so draft picks failed one after another with scheme change and coaching change. I can see the Dolphins doing the exact same thing because the HC seems like he has lost the team and the FO has been poor on evaluations, but the owner is letting them utilize this vision for tank and rebuild. I think they change course half way through and the rebuild becomes more of a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: The difficulty for the Fins becomes the Front Office and Coaching. They are going to be historically bad this year. Do they keep the HC and FO and draft with them in mind? I think they are still going to be super bad next year - so if they make a change at that point - now potentially all of the picks are wasted with new schemes. If they keep them - they are still going to struggle and potentially have 2 years of multiple picks wasted. This is where the Browns failed - they didn’t clean house and put together picks at the same time - so draft picks failed one after another with scheme change and coaching change. I can see the Dolphins doing the exact same thing because the HC seems like he has lost the team and the FO has been poor on evaluations, but the owner is letting them utilize this vision for tank and rebuild. I think they change course half way through and the rebuild becomes more of a failure. Is there a team left to lose? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Bills2ref said: Is there a team left to lose? ? There isn’t talent left, but at least 1/2 of the players currently on the team - will be on the Fins again next year - along with a lot of draft picks. If the players that survive the purge are not all bought in - then that can infect the next group of picks before things even start. They really need a solid 3-5 year plan and to me it starts right now by firing the GM and hiring a young GM and letting him know we are firing the coach after the season and I want a young Offensive HC candidates. If they let Flores survive after this year - the tanking and rebuild will fail because you will switch regimes in the middle or come out of this with a coach with like an 8-40 record by the time you can compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 What a nice bonus for the rest of the division, to have 2 games vs. the tankingest team in the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 On 9/17/2019 at 1:36 AM, Warcodered said: I thought they were selling stadium seats next, it's not like they're using them. ..taking pages from Jeter's Marlins......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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