GoBills808 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, brianb386 said: I don't even know anymore, Lamar not sucking has me all out of sorts. It's not sustainable imo. He's still a one read Greg Roman QB and they all get figured out eventually. Time will tell on Jackson but I think he's going to struggle down the stretch. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I'd still rather have Allen than Lamar. Even though Lamar is playing great currently, I think he'll be easier to defend as the year progresses... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 For me, it’s: 1. Lamar 2. Baker 3. Allen 4. Darnold 5. Rosen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I look at this group in both long and short term. In the short term Baker & Lamar will outperform the rest. But in the long term I see Josh & Sam having the best career. I can't see Baker/ Lamar sustaining this over many years. Rosen & Rudolph will be backups with Rosen leaving first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 A spin-off question, “which group of people are worse, those that were positive Allen would suck or those that were positive Lamar would suck?” They both look like idiots at the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, ricojes said: I'd still rather have Allen than Lamar. Even though Lamar is playing great currently, I think he'll be easier to defend as the year progresses... Ok fair enough, fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills11 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Mayfield Allen Jackson Darnold Rosen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: I look at this group in both long and short term. In the short term Baker & Lamar will outperform the rest. But in the long term I see Josh & Sam having the best career. I can't see Baker/ Lamar sustaining this over many years. Rosen & Rudolph will be backups with Rosen leaving first. Rudolph may become a starter. Will be interesting to see. I've been impressed with the positive changes to Jackson and Allen this year in terms of throwing ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, tumaro02 said: I guess you are giving Mayfield a pass on his only performance this year? 3 picks, 64.0 rating, 5 sacks, 0-1 record. You have him ranked #1? Did that not happen or are you going back to last year's performance? Interesting. All of these QBs are completely different after a full off-season. Last year the trolls trashed the Bills for not taking Rosen. They trashed Allen for his accuracy. Now a year later the Rosenites who claimed to know exactly who the Bills should have drafted are quiet and have gone underground, The Allen accuracy bashers are deleting tweets by the thousands and things are different. Putting Mayfield #1 discounts his poor performance in Week 1 and all the changes in the other QBs during the off-season. Jackson has been fantastic for sure. I think each team got the right QB for their franchise (including Rosen). I would not trade Allen for Mayfield, Jackson, Darnold, or the rest. His floor is higher than anyone predicted and his ceiling is too. But he/she appears to give a lot of credit to Lamar after his two performances this year. Also agree with not trading Allen, he in fact does have the highest ceiling of them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 They all get an incomplete grade from me in terms of just how good they'll be. I think Allen is progressing as is Jackson. They have the benefit of more table coaching regimes around them, and they each have decent O lines in front of them with some decent receivers. Mayfield and Darnold should be OK. Mayfield will suffer from having a completely inexperienced HC and a very suspect O line, plus a man child at WR who despite being very talented would rather draw attention to himself wearing $100,000 watches to play football. Darnold's O line is suspect, he just lost a key WR, and his HC is a basket case. And you just have to feel sorry for Rosen. I think Allen, Jackson, Darnold, and Mayfield will have long careers, maybe not elite but long. I think Rosen may say the hell with football after this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 22 minutes ago, FiftyPercent said: I don't even. is English your second language? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Objectively, Allen is 1. I don’t think that’s my inner homer talking. Seriously - if any of us had the 1st pick in that draft now, would we take anyone BUT Allen? I still think Darnold has a bright future. Obviously, Lamar and Mayfield both have a ton of talent. Equally obviously, we did not take the “wrong Josh.” I just don’t see another guy with Allen’s upside. He is the most skilled, and has every intangible you want in a QB. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiftyPercent Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: is English your second language? https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=I don't even.. Internet much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Just now, FiftyPercent said: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=I don't even.. Internet much? No, I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: A spin-off question, “which group of people are worse, those that were positive Allen would suck or those that were positive Lamar would suck?” They both look like idiots at the moment. I thought Allen would be great and Lamar would suck so my stupidity evens out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg1029 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Good question! It's still a bit early for this, but I would probably put them like this: 1) Mayfield tie for 2nd: Jackson/Allen 4) Darnold 5) Rosen 6) Everyone else Couple comments/thoughts: -not worried about Mayfield (yet). it was just one game and he has a whole year of playing pretty awesome. -I think Darnold will end up being pretty good as well. I'm not too sure about his ceiling, but I think his floor is pretty high. -To date, there appears to only have been one bad choice for QB in the first round.. and that's Rosen. But he still has plenty of time to change that perception. He may not get the chance to in Miami though, they look so inept that no one would look good there. -Everyone else (including Rudolph) is ranked down there because there isn't a big enough sample size. We will, obviously, have a better idea of where Rudolph falls after this year. I'm also curious about how Lauletta will fare, if he ever gets a chance. He looked alright with the Giants in the preseason this year, was surprised to see him cut for the trick shot guy, Alex Tanney 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sunshower said: I thought Allen would be great and Lamar would suck so my stupidity evens out. I liked all 5 of the QBs (I didn’t have Rudolph in that mix). Rosen and Baker were my two favorites coming in. I was mad when we took Allen instead of Rosen so not saying I was right. It’s the people that were positive Allen and/or Lamar would suck that are still digging in that look like idiots. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: A spin-off question, “which group of people are worse, those that were positive Allen would suck or those that were positive Lamar would suck?” They both look like idiots at the moment. If you take out the term "positive" than I would say neither, As far as I am concerned the jury is still out on both, way too early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Jackson has played 2 teams this season that may not win 3 games combined... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Just now, chknwing334 said: Jackson has played 2 teams this season that may not win 3 games combined... I think the sudden love affair people have the Lamar is absurd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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