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The Bills and Patriots have quickly knocked established they are the only two teams with a chance to win the AFC east.  I think Josh Allen has already made a case that he is the third best QB in the AFC this season.  Unfortunately, Tom Brady is one of the two better QBs.  I wish I could say otherwise, but the Brown, Gordan, Edelman crew plus Brady means their offense is stronger than the Bills.   Coming into the season, I expected the Bills to have a clearly better defense than the Patriots.   But after two games against similar caliber opponents as the Bills, the Patriots have given up only 1 red zone appearance.   I have not watched their games, so am just going by box scores. 

Does our defense match up in a way that makes up for their offense superiority.  (Also feel free to convince me they don't have superiority on offense).  

It is hard to overstate how much I want the Bills to beat these guys twice this year.   They are the only team on the schedule I feel looks better on paper than the Bills right now. 

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Pats d is #1 in overall and scoring whatever thats worth. To early to tell at this point.

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I don't know that I'd say "similar caliber"

 

The Dolphins are the absolute worst in the league, and it's leaps and bounds to the next-worst team.

 

Steelers... the jury is still out. I predicted this struggle. We all assume they're good because of their history... but in the offseason I told a Steelers fan friend of mine that the Steelers will be a sub-.500 team this year. Maybe the Steelers are of "similar caliber" to what we've beaten but one game is much too small of a sample size. The Dolphins game is an outlier, and very obviously skews those stats.

 

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Next up? Cincinnati. Let's try and get a W in week 3. If we get that W we can ponder the about the Pats matchup in week 4. The Pats look to be a COMPLETE team this year though, which is kind of scary. 

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NE has given up 6 points in their last 3 games if you include the SB.....Rams, Steelers and Miami....combine score is 89-6....Miami is absolute crap, but it's still impressive...

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9 minutes ago, H2o said:

Next up? Cincinnati. Let's try and get a W in week 3. If we get that W we can ponder the about the Pats matchup in week 4. The Pats look to be a COMPLETE team this year though, which is kind of scary. 

I am not a player or coach on the Bills.  As a consequence my looking ahead will have no impact on the Bills performance against the Bengals.

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you should be talking about the pats o line.  they are injured and vulnerable right now.  now of course i'm sure they'll find some guy working at a mall kiosk come in and be an all pro

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All I know, if Buffalo and New England are both 3-0 heading into that game, New Era will be rocking. It almost gives you goosebumps just thinking about it.

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If we take care of business against the Bengals then week four will be huge and all the national eyes will be on us. So we'll probably get smoked! 

 

Seriously, I don't think this team is ready to take them, but we might be if we face them in the playoffs...

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The Pats look incredible.  Damn it.  Doesn’t do any good to sugar coat it.  Their defense looks incredible, as good as ours, maybe better.  Their offense is clearly better than ours.  If the Pats stay healthy they are going to make another SB run.  

 

That doesn’t stop the Bills from doing their thing though.  I think we can win 10 games this year.  If we make the playoffs I truly believe it’s an “any given Sunday” situation and we will have a shot to make our own little run.

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The truth is, as sad as it may be, until we beat them, they are better. Yes it sucks, but it is what it is. We have a fair chance to correct this situation in two weeks, we shall see. 

 

Go Bills !!!

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22 minutes ago, Iron Maiden said:

NE has given up 6 points in their last 3 games if you include the SB.....Rams, Steelers and Miami....combine score is 89-6....Miami is absolute crap, but it's still impressive...

 

Most people had the steelers at least competing for a playoff spot, and they got absolutely thrashed by the patriots in every facet of football.

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2 hours ago, Chris66 said:

Pats d is #1 in overall and scoring whatever that's worth. To early to tell at this point.

 

That happens when you play JV teams.

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2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Can I take our front 7 and their back 4?

 

 

I’ll take our back 4 over any secondary in the league.  Might be a mistake, but I love those guys.  I trust those guys

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Pats D basically sleptwalked through the regular season last year and came out full steam in the playoffs

 

they have improved, possibly the best D of the B&B era

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Yeah too early to tell.  I'd say the defenses are roughly at the same level.

 

Their Dline does that illegal and cheesy move invented by none other than Belicheat himself where the Dline calls out something that sounds like "hut" right about when they think the ball is being snapped, and they claim it's a call to adjust their coverages or Dlinemen but it's to get the Olinemen to move.   The Giants got us twice on it yesterday, Dawk was one of them and I think Cody got the other flag. 

 

It's called simulating the snap count, and referees can flag the defense for it but they have to hear it, which hopefully they will at New Era.  In a home stadium they can't hear anything on the field on defense.  The league should put an end to it by prohibiting defensive line calls within 5 seconds of the play clock running down or something.   It's not like they actually have time to adjust or move anybody at that point, it's blatant cheating and as usual the league will have to do something about it when a huge playoff game gets decided by a stupid penalty again.

 

Bill started it against the Ravens in that playoff game where they were also doing those illegal substitutions (the one where Harbaugh lost his mind).  The league changed the rule on substitution rule because of the Pats after that game when they were reporting a RB as ineligible but lining him up outside the tackle box.   

 

God I hate that team.  Why can't they just trust their coaches and players to go out and compete and win fair and square without all the bulls*it rule bending.  

 

 

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1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

That happens when you play JV teams.

 

and just whom have the Bills played so far?

 

i got 5 wins total for the Jets/Giants cratering in 2019

 

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6 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

and just whom have the Bills played so far?

 

i got 5 wins total for the Jets/Giants cratering in 2019

 

 

I might have the same for the Dolphins and Steelers.

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3 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said:

The Pats look incredible.  Damn it.  Doesn’t do any good to sugar coat it.  Their defense looks incredible, as good as ours, maybe better.  Their offense is clearly better than ours.  If the Pats stay healthy they are going to make another SB run.  

 

That doesn’t stop the Bills from doing their thing though.  I think we can win 10 games this year.  If we make the playoffs I truly believe it’s an “any given Sunday” situation and we will have a shot to make our own little run.

Right now, and I hate to say it but NE is the better team. We could still beat them in 2 weeks but it would be an “ any given Sunday “ game. I’m more interested in later in the season and/or playoffs. Good teams get better as the season progresses and with all of our youth!!!  However IMO the  defenses are both very good. Good  time to be a Bills fan! 

 

 

Is there a bad time to be a Bills fan??

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Did I register at a Pats forum by mistake?  Wtf is happening on this board?!

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The Pats defense is better right now.  Let's face it, they have not given up a touchdown in 3 games, and one of them was against the Rams in the Super Bowl.  They also shut down Mahomes for an entire half, and kept him under 300 yards in a game.  Bills defense just a notch below right now, but it is young and is going to get better as year moves along.  I think the Bills Defense showed it's youth in the first drive yesterday, but they made adjustments and learned.  

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The Pats still have the edge based on their recent success, but I feel that the gap between the two teams is closing fast. This Bills defense is starting to play as advertised, and the Patriots are going to find out for themselves. As time goes on, it will become more difficult for the Patriots to beat the Bills. Thats how this stuff usually happens...like a runaway train!

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