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29 minutes ago, Success said:

They’re looking very smart right now.  It feels like the team is in good hands and will be for years.

 

I don’t miss Gilmore - I only wish the Pats didn’t get him.  He’s their best player in D and a real difference maker for them.

 

My thoughts exactly. White and Gilmore as your 2 CB's is devastating. But Levi Wallace has a lot of promise. Plus White is going to demand a Gilmore-like contract next year, so I don't know if it's wise to allocate that much money to your CB's in this style of defense. Oh yeah, and this is a very important point: I don't think Gilmore would fit in this locker room. All of these McBeane Bills actually seem to like playing in Buffalo and like the fans.

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53 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Gilmore and Watkins on this team right now makes us a better team.  

 

Also, it makes two AFC contenders weaker not having them 

So what?

 

That is over.....we are where we are right now.

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2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

So what?

 

That is over.....we are where we are right now.

 

It was said...I responded

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59 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Gilmore and Watkins on this team right now makes us a better team.  

 

Also, it makes two AFC contenders weaker not having them 

They didn’t want to see the process through.

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The decisions can be wrong and the "process" can still work........but it's a lot easier when you have guys that they passed on like Mahomes and Watkins and Gilmore than doing it without them.

 

The bar has been set high though.........the list of players the Bills have passed on or let walk who have gone on to play and play well in SB's and championship games just since McDermott got here is astonishing.  

 

This team has a once-in-a-generation level easy schedule and McBeane have been given full control of a roster that was very underrated when they got here and sacrificed two seasons to get to this point so they should be expected to win 10-11 games and have a very good chance to win a playoff game for the first time in 25 years. :thumbsup:

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1 hour ago, Virgil said:

Gilmore and Watkins on this team right now makes us a better team.  

 

Also, it makes two AFC contenders weaker not having them 

Not a chance!

14 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

The decisions can be wrong and the "process" can still work........but it's a lot easier when you have guys that they passed on like Mahomes and Watkins and Gilmore than doing it without them.

 

The bar has been set high though.........the list of players the Bills have passed on or let walk who have gone on to play and play well in SB's and championship games just since McDermott got here is astonishing.  

 

This team has a once-in-a-generation level easy schedule and McBeane have been given full control of a roster that was very underrated when they got here and sacrificed two seasons to get to this point so they should be expected to win 10-11 games and have a very good chance to win a playoff game for the first time in 25 years. :thumbsup:

OK, whatever!

1 hour ago, Virgil said:

Gilmore and Watkins on this team right now makes us a better team.  

 

Also, it makes two AFC contenders weaker not having them 

Disagree, individuals and divas; stop clinging to the failed past and embrace the positive future!

48 minutes ago, Virgil said:

 

Gilmore wasn’t traded. 

 

Watkins got us a second.  So yes, we couldn’t have traded up for Edmunds.  I’d rather have Edmunds.  

 

Outside of that, you just can’t say we’d be a worse team adding them to our roster

No. Gilmore left for more money and yes he is now performing for the Patriots he did not in Buffalo; so long and enjoy, wish him the best

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1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

They're the anti-Whaley.

 

 

Now I am really getting nervous, Joe and I have agreed the last three posts; I'm winning you over Joe in Winslow?

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1 hour ago, Virgil said:

Gilmore and Watkins on this team right now makes us a better team.  

 

Also, it makes two AFC contenders weaker not having them 

 

It also has a significant effect on the cap and roster moves. Neither player "bought into Buffalo". They were ready to leave as soon as they got here. 

 

The players here now want to be here

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1 hour ago, Bferra13 said:

Come on... Sammy will be injured soon. He can't be relied upon. And Gilmour is almost a wash with Tre (tre will be better).

Why this abnormal emotional attachment to these guys?

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1 minute ago, vorpma said:

Now I am really getting nervous, Joe and I have agreed the last three posts; I'm winning you over Joe in Winslow?

 

Vice versa.

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1 hour ago, Freddie's Dead said:

The Process is good, although I still have issues with The Process WRT gameday decisions.  It hasn't cost us yet, here's hoping McD gets it straightened out.

No one doubts the success of McB's process/culture change with this organization.  But as a game day coach his process is a C+.....you cannot sit on 14 pt leads anymore in today's NFL....The Jets will agree...

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2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

No one doubts the success of McB's process/culture change with this organization.  But as a game day coach his process is a C+.....you cannot sit on 14 pt leads anymore in today's NFL....The Jets will agree...

 

And they won...with a 14 point margin.

 

Crazytown.

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15 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Vice versa.

Not bad if you are, means we are both tracking!

9 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

And they won...with a 14 point margin.

 

Crazytown.

They cannot accept success!

55 minutes ago, Virgil said:

 

It was said...I responded

As much as you provide some really great posts, I thiiiiink you are caught in the "really good .500 era" of Bills Football!

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Process, process, process, blah blah blah...

 

 

I thought we were done with this nonsense. 

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4 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Best regime we have had since the SB years!  Love both McD and Beane and been on both their trains since the beginning!  

Me too... Living in the Carolinas and only getting panthers games on TV every week, McDermott was the guy I wanted.

 

all aboard the process train!

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4 hours ago, vorpma said:

It's still early in the season but at the moment the "process is looking very successful; I really am not missing Watkins, Darby, Dareus, or even Gilmore! Wish them all the best but I love this team! Class and Character - the product of a great rebuild and yes - THE PROCESS!!!!

 

I dont necessarily miss these guys, but you have 2 Super Bowl rings and an AFC Champ contender listed there. It's not like having them is a bad thing.

 

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4 hours ago, Virgil said:

Gilmore and Watkins on this team right now makes us a better team.  

 

Also, it makes two AFC contenders weaker not having them 

True. If Watkins would buy in to the process. Seems to have learned since his days here. 

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4 hours ago, Virgil said:

Gilmore and Watkins on this team right now makes us a better team.  

 

Also, it makes two AFC contenders weaker not having them 

 

If they don’t buy into the system, then they wouldn’t make the team better. Being good isn’t enough for McBeane, you also have to be focused on the team as well. Neither of those guys were interested in that while here. 

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Revisionist history. They had the cap room to bring back Gilmore. They botched the 3rd round comp pick they would have gotten.  I thought the plan was to sign your own drafted guys? McD let him walk and it was a bad decision. 

Getting a 2nd for Watkins was a good trade. Whaley is out of the NFL because of two things - never getting the QB and the Watkins trade/pick. We may never know who was the guy who wanted Manuel. 

But it's time to move on. The process is and always was about Allen. Nothing else matters.

1 hour ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said:

 

If they don’t buy into the system, then they wouldn’t make the team better. Being good isn’t enough for McBeane, you also have to be focused on the team as well. Neither of those guys were interested in that while here. 

No argument about Watkins not wanting to be here. 

But Gilmore never made a negative comment about the team or Buffalo. He was probably pissed they decided to pay Tyrod and not extend him after his fourth year. 

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6 hours ago, Virgil said:

Gilmore and Watkins on this team right now makes us a better team.  

 

Also, it makes two AFC contenders weaker not having them 

Have to say, watching KC highlights makes me jealous. They have an embarrassment of  receiving riches . 

Have to think we get some even better receivers next year. And another back.

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9 hours ago, vorpma said:

It's still early in the season but at the moment the "process is looking very successful; I really am not missing Watkins, Darby, Dareus, or even Gilmore! Wish them all the best but I love this team! Class and Character - the product of a great rebuild and yes - THE PROCESS!!!!

I would say that it is a "work in progress" trending towards success.   Also, some of the folks you mentioned are also having the greatest seasons of their careers.   Both Glimore and Watkins have been dominating in the 1st two weks. 

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2 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Revisionist history. They had the cap room to bring back Gilmore. They botched the 3rd round comp pick they would have gotten.  I thought the plan was to sign your own drafted guys? McD let him walk and it was a bad decision. 

Getting a 2nd for Watkins was a good trade. Whaley is out of the NFL because of two things - never getting the QB and the Watkins trade/pick. We may never know who was the guy who wanted Manuel. 

But it's time to move on. The process is and always was about Allen. Nothing else matters.

No argument about Watkins not wanting to be here. 

But Gilmore never made a negative comment about the team or Buffalo. He was probably pissed they decided to pay Tyrod and not extend him after his fourth year. 

Im ok with it....give me Tre White (a top corner) and Levi Wallace (who is turning out to be a stud)

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