eball Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 10 hours ago, yall said: I can understand the refs misreading it in real time. I can't understand McD not challenging it. Every scoring play is reviewed (and this was as well). A challenge was not needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Xwnyer said: If they are gonna start mandating that all,of the ball make it out of the end zone than an overhead camera should be mandated at every goal line. The "started" this like 100 years ago, LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 9 hours ago, Livinginthepast said: 3. I don't understand how a big money league in a billion $ stadium has no direct overhead sky cam view? That would have easily answered the question without doubt but somehow there wasn't one?? This puzzled me as well. I've seen other games where that overhead angle is used via a camera suspended on wires. I guess the Jest stadium doesn't have one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 11 hours ago, yall said: I can understand the refs misreading it in real time. I can't understand McD not challenging it. He can't challenge it. All scoring plays are automatically reviewed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 11 hours ago, yall said: I can understand the refs misreading it in real time. I can't understand McD not challenging it. It is a scoring play - coaches can’t challenge - it is automatically reviewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 11 hours ago, Bills2ref said: The announcers said that. I’ll have to look up the rule myself, unless you know for sure? It seems odd that it only has to break the plane for a TD. But must be entirely over to prevent a safety. Nope the announcers are correct - if any part of the ball is in the end zone - the ball is considered in the end zone - it makes perfect sense both ways are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Thanks for asking this. Everyone in the cheap seats were wondering the same. It looked like crossed the goal line. Watching the replay no. His whole body was outside the goal line! How could the ball be behind him? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 11 hours ago, coloradobillsfan said: exactly. what are the refs going to do, spot the ball /on/ the goal line for the next play? half yard line. If it were the Pats the 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, GG said: Thanks for asking this. Everyone in the cheap seats were wondering the same. It looked like crossed the goal line. Watching the replay no. His whole body was outside the goal line! How could the ball be behind him? Apparently he was being sneaky and had the ball behind his back! Just a ridiculous initial call from an official who couldn't possibly have seen it and a total cop out from the replay crew in the booth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 12 hours ago, yall said: I can understand the refs misreading it in real time. I can't understand McD not challenging it. Not challenging the call was the right thing to do. Whether the call was right or wrong there wasn't enough evidence to overrule the call. I thought that Gore crossed the line but it was a close call one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 It's kind of crazy that the NFL/TV production crew doesn't make sure to have camera views down the line when the ball is at the goal line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 13 hours ago, yall said: I can understand the refs misreading it in real time. I can't understand McD not challenging it. All scoring plays are automatically reviewed by the league and their excuse was no definite proof that call on play could be overturned so it stood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradobillsfan Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: half yard line. If it were the Pats the 2. 12 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: No, just past it. The ref is supposed to spot the ball exactly as far as it was progressed on the previous play. If it did not completely cross the white line, they would be placing it on the white line on the subsequent play, which makes no sense. If you saw that the ball did completely cross the white line, well that's another discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 2 hours ago, coloradobillsfan said: The ref is supposed to spot the ball exactly as far as it was progressed on the previous play. If it did not completely cross the white line, they would be placing it on the white line on the subsequent play, which makes no sense. If you saw that the ball did completely cross the white line, well that's another discussion. didn't need replay to see it, bad call by the refs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 17 hours ago, yall said: I can understand the refs misreading it in real time. I can't understand McD not challenging it. All scoring plays are reviewed. He can’t challange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 5 hours ago, Rochesterfan said: Nope the announcers are correct - if any part of the ball is in the end zone - the ball is considered in the end zone - it makes perfect sense both ways are the same. If all you need is the nose of the football to break the plane for a TD yjrm grtying the nose outside the end zone mans it’s not a safety because the gall is spotted based on the nose of the ball. Similarly for first down..all you need is the nose of the bell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 17 hours ago, oldmanfan said: It’s where the ball was. And I agree the ball got over the line. Yep this. How the hell does the NFL have a bad goal line camera angle - WTF. It is only the spot other than the uprights where teams score. Not enough evidence my backside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 6 hours ago, Capco said: This puzzled me as well. I've seen other games where that overhead angle is used via a camera suspended on wires. I guess the Jest stadium doesn't have one? Certain games have more cameras at them than others. For example, all prime time games, and the national games during the afternoon. It is ridiculous, however, that the NFL does not require two cameras at the goal line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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