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48 minutes ago, TigerJ said:

The Bills are keeping Bojorquez since he's so valuable as a source of information about the New England Patriots special teams.

 

Last year called...

 

44 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

Man........all these visits.🤔

 

I thought the Bills roster was SO DEEP that their only problem was trying to protect what they had from the rest of the league.:rolleyes:

 

Since 2014 or so I think this is the 4th preseason where there was major drama with numerous vigil threads among the fanbase about cutting players for fear of them doing well elsewhere.........and I'm not including last year because it was only Rod Streater and maybe a couple others..........not like the 5-6 players that people were sweating the loss of this year.

 

The reality is that the Bills don't treat the 53 man roster the way fans assume they will................they don't just keep the best 53.......it's more like they keep the top 47 or so and the rest they keep for a variety of reasons.......they keep tradeable assets(see the 10th OL)........they keep veterans who they have gone to battle with or who they talked off of the couch or a ST guy they think they NEED out of fear that the ST's will be sloppy in the first couple weeks. 

 

The first two weeks of the season you should not need 53 to field a healthy active roster...........so expect a lot of wheeling and maybe some dealing with those inactive spots every year.......this is the new norm.

 

I love the idea of bringing in some of these big talent guys that didn't fit elsewhere...........nothing may come of it but at least it's fun to project a guy like Jones or Spence playing to their perceived potential in this defense.:thumbsup:

 

Yes because the 50th-53rd best players on every team are stellar. :rolleyes:

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48 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Man........all these visits.🤔

 

I thought the Bills roster was SO DEEP that their only problem was trying to protect what they had from the rest of the league.:rolleyes:

 

Since 2014 or so I think this is the 4th preseason where there was major drama with numerous vigil threads among the fanbase about cutting players for fear of them doing well elsewhere.........and I'm not including last year because it was only Rod Streater and maybe a couple others..........not like the 5-6 players that people were sweating the loss of this year.

 

The reality is that the Bills don't treat the 53 man roster the way fans assume they will................they don't just keep the best 53.......it's more like they keep the top 47 or so and the rest they keep for a variety of reasons.......they keep tradeable assets(see the 10th OL)........they keep veterans who they have gone to battle with or who they talked off of the couch or a ST guy they think they NEED out of fear that the ST's will be sloppy in the first couple weeks. 

 

The first two weeks of the season you should not need 53 to field a healthy active roster...........so expect a lot of wheeling and maybe some dealing with those inactive spots every year.......this is the new norm.

 

I love the idea of bringing in some of these big talent guys that didn't fit elsewhere...........nothing may come of it but at least it's fun to project a guy like Jones or Spence playing to their perceived potential in this defense.:thumbsup:

This is one of the main reasons that I respect this GM and his team so much... they never stop trying to get better.  We all breathe a sign of relief after cut-down day... but they just get back at it.  I knew that they would go after Colquitt... because it was the right thing... and they generally do the right thing.  I'm sure they're on their second target at punter today.

 

 

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32 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

You are insufferable

He won’t be happy until Bills bring Mike Gillislee in for a tryout.

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21 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

Don't understand what's going on with Noah Spence. I thought he was healthy and having a good preseason. With a new coaching staff switching to 3/4D, pressure in the middle with Suh and Vita, and JPP out for a bunch of games his position should have been secure. I gather he has issues defending the run but he can rush the passer.

The Tampa D has been a dumpster fire.  I believe he has had 3 d Co Ordinators in each of his first 3 years.  I could see a Hughes type turnaround.  Start off as a pass rush specialist and go from there.

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10 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Yes because the 50th-53rd best players on every team are stellar. :rolleyes:

 

That was kinda Badol's point. 

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41 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Yeah, lots that way.  I guess the only thing is no one could have possibly seen Theilen emerging like he did.  He’s at least a different skill set than most of our guys so I like at least kicking the tires on high picks.  Sometimes a change of scenery is good and our receivers still aren’t great. 

Good call! Trade for Thielen!! Only great reciever we have so far is Beasley, hopefully Brown can take that next step as well as Foster. 

 

PS. I know you weren't advocating a Thielen trade but for Treadwell, I'm just an @$$clown as people would say...💩. Still nothing is as honorable as being called A idiot lol

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36 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

....probably just me (SHOCKING I know), but I like Eddie's moxy and grit..............

I am with ya on Eddie. plenty of hustle. Probably mentored by Hughes

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13 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

That was kinda Badol's point. 

 

Then it was a non-point.  No team has All-Pros at every position.  And no Bills fan was claiming that the Bills have players at every unit that they're worried about losing.

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Just now, Doc said:

 

Then it was a non-point.  No team has All-Pros at every position.  And no Bills fan was claiming that the Bills have players at every position that they're worried about losing.

 

His point was fans fixate about the last 5 or 6 guys that do or don't make it and the reality is that after the first 47 there are no "must haves" for teams and they quite often cycle through guys in those 48-53 spots in the early weeks of the season and Special Teams play a major part. Yet every year we have the same threads worrying about losing a 6th receiver or a 4th back when the reality is the guys who make those spots on cut down day are still very much on the bubble. 

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1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

His point was fans fixate about the last 5 or 6 guys that do or don't make it and the reality is that after the first 47 there are no "must haves" for teams and they quite often cycle through guys in those 48-53 spots in the early weeks of the season and Special Teams play a major part. Yet every year we have the same threads worrying about losing a 6th receiver or a 4th back when the reality is the guys who make those spots on cut down day are still very much on the bubble. 

 

Fans fixate on certain units because it appears there is a lot of talent there.  But the guys they brought in appear to be PS candidates.

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41 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Fans fixate on certain units because it appears there is a lot of talent there.  But the guys they brought in appear to be PS candidates.

 

It would take a "process" first or second round pick to agree to a PS spot. Probably some egos. 

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2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Man........all these visits.🤔

 

I thought the Bills roster was SO DEEP that their only problem was trying to protect what they had from the rest of the league.:rolleyes:

 

Since 2014 or so I think this is the 4th preseason where there was major drama with numerous vigil threads among the fanbase about cutting players for fear of them doing well elsewhere.........and I'm not including last year because it was only Rod Streater and maybe a couple others..........not like the 5-6 players that people were sweating the loss of this year.

 

The reality is that the Bills don't treat the 53 man roster the way fans assume they will................they don't just keep the best 53.......it's more like they keep the top 47 or so and the rest they keep for a variety of reasons.......they keep tradeable assets(see the 10th OL)........they keep veterans who they have gone to battle with or who they talked off of the couch or a ST guy they think they NEED out of fear that the ST's will be sloppy in the first couple weeks. 

 

The first two weeks of the season you should not need 53 to field a healthy active roster...........so expect a lot of wheeling and maybe some dealing with those inactive spots every year.......this is the new norm.

 

I love the idea of bringing in some of these big talent guys that didn't fit elsewhere...........nothing may come of it but at least it's fun to project a guy like Jones or Spence playing to their perceived potential in this defense.:thumbsup:

We had at least 3 cuts picked up off waivers

 

beane is doing his job always looking to improve the roster

 

i like Spence

treadwell and duke are basically the same player

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6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

We had at least 3 cuts picked up off waivers

 

beane is doing his job always looking to improve the roster

 

Nobody is saying the roster isn't improved. Unless I am missing the point..  and I could be... I have before haha... the point is don't fixate on the guys you see making plays in pre-season games. Because anyone who is out there playing a lot in pre-season is fighting for a roster spot and even if they make it they are fighting to hold onto it all season long. The fact that it is better to cut guys who could make another roster as those bottom end cycle through guys - Deon Lacey and Ryan Lewis are prime examples - rather than guys who will never see an NFL field again as we were a couple of years back is inarguable. 

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17 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Nobody is saying the roster isn't improved. Unless I am missing the point..  and I could be... I have before haha... the point is don't fixate on the guys you see making plays in pre-season games. Because anyone who is out there playing a lot in pre-season is fighting for a roster spot and even if they make it they are fighting to hold onto it all season long. The fact that it is better to cut guys who could make another roster as those bottom end cycle through guys - Deon Lacey and Ryan Lewis are prime examples - rather than guys who will never see an NFL field again as we were a couple of years back is inarguable. 

I understand the viewpoint and agree with it

and Beane has not been successful with this all the time just see last years ol and qb situations

 

to me this is how you find those guys who are not your premier players but might make a play here and there for you in case of injury

 

for instance I want Johnson taking those backup reps but Spence might come in and provide reps

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3 hours ago, ChanticleerBillsFan said:

Who do y’all think we would cut to bring in Treadwell or Spence? I agree looks to be Neal if we being in Jones. 

 

I like Treadwell I think he got behind two great players in Diggs/Thielen and reading that article that was posted he seems like a hard worker/“process” the player 

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1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

Great piece. Thanks!!!

 

 

It is a great piece......thanks @PirateHookerMD👍

 

I think it's pertinent with what happened here with Sammy Watkins too.

 

When Sammy suffered his foot problem Rex was very frustrated with him because he felt that he caused it by over training..........working hard instead of smart.

 

Sometimes dudes like Watkins and Treadwell dominate the guy in front of them growing up and they can get hard to coach and that costs them later on when they get challenged at the next level.  Ignorance gets you beaten in the pros........you gotta' be both willing to learn and know how to learn by then.

 

When the Bills drafted Sammy I was all about bringing in then FA Anquan Boldin to mentor him right then............it needed to be a guy he could both relate to and respect.........but instead the Bills went with an all-young guy WR corps under Marrone/Whaley and by the time McBeane wisely brought Boldin in they quickly determined,  much to my disagreement still today, that it was too little too late.   

 

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5 hours ago, PirateHookerMD said:

 

Wow! Rarely do I read one of these articles and feel I learned something, but this was one of those occasions. A very informative article. Thanks.

 

As for Treadwell, his physical characteristics remind me a lot of Duke Williams. Not sure there is a need for him, but then again, as the article reinforced, I'm a fan, what do I really know?

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Noah Spence seems to have a lot of talent and good skill set and size. Are his off field issues still a concern? Urban Meyer stated that Spence went all out at practice. Intriguing former 2nd round pick. Maybe he can get his head together and start living up to his potential.

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27 minutes ago, Doc said:

Can he play LB?

 

Nah but they are all trying out for punter. 

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I'd feel better about Laquon Treadwell as a Bill than Tyron Johnson, if the Bills were to sign him. 

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4 hours ago, Doc said:

Can he play LB?

Spence can play LB, but his lackluster play and the arrival of Devin White and Devonte Bond made him expendable by the Bucs. Spence is another high draft pick who didn't live up to his potential and never really flashed in Tampa. I don't know how much time McDermott has on his hands for reclamation projects, but he is obviously worth a look. Maybe he could turn things around in Buffalo. 

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