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41 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Yes, I would rather have the guy that has a 83 qb rating, won 16 games in his career, and started a playoff game than a guy with a 68.3 qb rating and won 2 games in his career.  Is this ever a serious question?

 

and I know it won’t happen but in a perfect world, you should always be looking to upgrade your roster.  Hoyer is better than Barkley and it’s not debatable. 

 

Hoyer has a noodle arm and sucks.     

 

Weird guy to vouch for 

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1 hour ago, Stallions said:

The 33 year old vet is available after the Pats released him today.  Maybe a great source of information and a good back-up if either Allen or Barkley get nicked?  His salary was $915,00 in '18 but was to jump to $2mil this season.   

 

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1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Yes, I would rather have the guy that has a 83 qb rating, won 16 games in his career, and started a playoff game than a guy with a 68.3 qb rating and won 2 games in his career.  Is this ever a serious question?

 

and I know it won’t happen but in a perfect world, you should always be looking to upgrade your roster.  Hoyer is better than Barkley and it’s not debatable. 

 

 

I don't believe, in 2019, that Hoyer is better than Barkley. Better career? No doubt. But for the 2019 Buffalo Bills I'd lean toward Barkley.

 

Barkley seems to be aging in the league very nicely.

 

And for the record (though I think it means very little) Barkley's QBR was better than Hoyer's last year.

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1 hour ago, Stallions said:

The 33 year old vet is available after the Pats released him today.  Maybe a great source of information and a good back-up if either Allen or Barkley get nicked?  His salary was $915,00 in '18 but was to jump to $2mil this season.   

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1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Yes, I would rather have the guy that has a 83 qb rating, won 16 games in his career, and started a playoff game than a guy with a 68.3 qb rating and won 2 games in his career.  Is this ever a serious question?

 

and I know it won’t happen but in a perfect world, you should always be looking to upgrade your roster.  Hoyer is better than Barkley and it’s not debatable. 

Hoyer will get snatched up pretty quickly with teams that aren't comfortable with their backup QB situation.  The Colts come to mind.  Bills seem to have faith that Barkley is a better QB than his career stats suggest and are comfortable with him as a backup.  

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2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I love that some reacted to my post yet couldn’t even response.  On what planet is Matt Barkley better than Hoyer?  Just because a guy is the Bills doesn’t mean you should just make up things.  

 

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/12477/brian-hoyer

 

http://www.nfl.com/player/mattbarkley/2539308/profile

Make what up? I think Barkley is better suited for us and Allen at this point, Hoyer has reached his ceiling, Barkley hasn't. How am I wrong?

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Brian Hoyer represents everything that is wrong with salary structures of modern athletes.

 

Despite having done absolutely nothing throughout his entire career and being a terrible quarterback, he has still amassed over $21 million in career earnings.

 

$21 million!  For being terrible at his job!  

 

Being a crap QB in the NHL pays very well and is relatively safe; these guys don't play that much.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Nextmanup said:

 

 

Being a crap QB in the NHL pays very well and is relatively safe; these guys don't play that much.

 

in fact, they don’t play at all in that particular league!

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McDermot TV doesnt  carry 3 QBs,so,fine. I would like them to add a QB to the PS,in addition to Jackson, who already "knows the system". Must be a PS-Eligible QB out there.

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14 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Yes, I would rather have the guy that has a 83 qb rating, won 16 games in his career, and started a playoff game than a guy with a 68.3 qb rating and won 2 games in his career.  Is this ever a serious question?

 

and I know it won’t happen but in a perfect world, you should always be looking to upgrade your roster.  Hoyer is better than Barkley and it’s not debatable. 

 

And why do you think "you know it won't happen"? Because the Bills brain trust feel the same as I do. So I guess it is debatable after all. In a perfect world, you pick the best guy. They have. It's not like Hoyer would be more expensive, he isn't. You didn't respond to the fact Barkley had the top completion percentage of this preseason. One could argue, based on statistics, he's better than Hoyer is right now. You like statistics, what do you say about that?

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15 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

He’s way better than Barkley but Barkley knows the system. 


Man you’ve got some funny opinions sometimes...

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18 hours ago, Teddy KGB said:

 

Hoyer has a noodle arm and sucks.     

 

Weird guy to vouch for 

Barkley has a noodle arm.  I really liked Barkley in his draft.  My favorite qb.  So I watched his nfl career and he’s just not good enough.  Say what you want to about Hoyer but he is HOFer compared to Barkley. 

 

I get we’re Bills fans but man do we love to overrate our players.  I don’t remember any Barkley love before we got him.  Now, he’s a great backup.  Ftr, I’m fine with Barkley but I’m not going to pretend there aren’t better options.  Hoyer is a better option.  But what does stupid NE know?

4 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:


Man you’ve got some funny opinions sometimes...

I have right opinions that don’t follow the pack.  Been that way since third grade and the teacher asked if Ben Franklin was ever a President.  I was the only one who said he wasn’t.  

 

Please tell me how Barkley is better.  Because there are no stats that come close to showing that.  Hoyer has won more games and started a playoff game.  Hoyer has backed up Tom Brady.  There is literally not one piece of evidence that show Barkley is a better qb.  Find me some.  

 

This is is my Ben Franklin 2.0.

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21 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:

Nope.....

 

When was the last time a team that had to resort to their 3rd string QB for any prolonged period made the playoffs?

 

If at any time we need to use our 3rd string QB for any reason outside of mop up duty the season is lost.

2017 Minnesota Vikings 

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22 hours ago, Stallions said:

The 33 year old vet is available after the Pats released him today.  Maybe a great source of information and a good back-up if either Allen or Barkley get nicked?  His salary was $915,00 in '18 but was to jump to $2mil this season.   

 

Maybe sign him just after game 3 and waive him after Cheats game.

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27 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

2017 Minnesota Vikings 

Really dude? Bradford was the starter going into the season before he got hurt and Keenam took over. Bridgewater was gone before the season even started, but yes, TECHNICALLY he was the 1st string QB before he got hurt in training camp.

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21 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I love that some reacted to my post yet couldn’t even response.  On what planet is Matt Barkley better than Hoyer?  Just because a guy is the Bills doesn’t mean you should just make up things.  

 

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/12477/brian-hoyer

 

http://www.nfl.com/player/mattbarkley/2539308/profile

 

Another consideration is scout team work, which I guess he has excelled at:

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/04/patriots-defense-credits-brian-hoyer-for-scout-team-preparation/

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21 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

this thread.

 

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I really enjoy this. :lol:

19 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

Make what up? I think Barkley is better suited for us and Allen at this point, Hoyer has reached his ceiling, Barkley hasn't. How am I wrong?

 

You're not.

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We're not carrying 3 active quarterbacks.  We do need a young PS guy.  Hoyer is not young or eligible, although he's pretty good.

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2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Barkley has a noodle arm.  I really liked Barkley in his draft.  My favorite qb.  So I watched his nfl career and he’s just not good enough.  Say what you want to about Hoyer but he is HOFer compared to Barkley. 

 

I get we’re Bills fans but man do we love to overrate our players.  I don’t remember any Barkley love before we got him.  Now, he’s a great backup.  Ftr, I’m fine with Barkley but I’m not going to pretend there aren’t better options.  Hoyer is a better option.  But what does stupid NE know?

I have right opinions that don’t follow the pack.  Been that way since third grade and the teacher asked if Ben Franklin was ever a President.  I was the only one who said he wasn’t.  

 

Please tell me how Barkley is better.  Because there are no stats that come close to showing that.  Hoyer has won more games and started a playoff game.  Hoyer has backed up Tom Brady.  There is literally not one piece of evidence that show Barkley is a better qb.  Find me some.  

 

This is is my Ben Franklin 2.0.

 

You've become completely unhinged.

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25 minutes ago, inaugural balls said:

 

You've become completely unhinged.

Yeah, clearly the guy who wants the qb with a much better qb rating rating, more wins, started a playoff game, and was a backup on SB teams over a guy with a 67 career QBs rating and 2 wins is clearly the unhinged one.  

 

I am the voice of reason in a sea of craziness.  If the situations were reversed, bills homer would be laughing at replacing a seasoned vet like Hoyer for a “scrub” like Barkley, 

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44 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

Really dude? Bradford was the starter going into the season before he got hurt and Keenam took over. Bridgewater was gone before the season even started, but yes, TECHNICALLY he was the 1st string QB before he got hurt in training camp.

So you just proved the Vikings made the playoffs by having a reliable 3rd QB on the roster

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59 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

So you just proved the Vikings made the playoffs by having a reliable 3rd QB on the roster

The only thing I proved is how rare it is for a 3rd string QB to start 15 games in a season. But as I mentioned IMO he was 2nd string😋

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4 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Barkley has a noodle arm.  I really liked Barkley in his draft.  My favorite qb.  So I watched his nfl career and he’s just not good enough.  Say what you want to about Hoyer but he is HOFer compared to Barkley. 

 

I get we’re Bills fans but man do we love to overrate our players.  I don’t remember any Barkley love before we got him.  Now, he’s a great backup.  Ftr, I’m fine with Barkley but I’m not going to pretend there aren’t better options.  Hoyer is a better option.  But what does stupid NE know?

I have right opinions that don’t follow the pack.  Been that way since third grade and the teacher asked if Ben Franklin was ever a President.  I was the only one who said he wasn’t.  

 

Please tell me how Barkley is better.  Because there are no stats that come close to showing that.  Hoyer has won more games and started a playoff game.  Hoyer has backed up Tom Brady.  There is literally not one piece of evidence that show Barkley is a better qb.  Find me some.  

 

This is is my Ben Franklin 2.0.

I mean isn't Ben Franklin not being President more of an objective fact, not so much an opinion?

 

Wait, that doesn't hurt your argument...

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