EC-Bills Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 I dunno guys, this deal seems like Jason Peters 2.0... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Just now, Doc Brown said: How do you know he was going to be cut? They traded him for low round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Just now, Doc said: They traded him for low round picks. If they got better compensation for another bubble lineman would they have taken that deal and kept Teller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reks Ryan Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Doc said: I had Teller making the team along with Bates. I guess they like someone better at the 9th spot. If they keep 9. The last spot will be someone who is not currently on the roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 21 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: If they got better compensation for another bubble lineman would they have taken that deal and kept Teller? I doubt they got any offers for any other lineman not in their top-8 or 9. 18 minutes ago, Reks Ryan said: If they keep 9. The last spot will be someone who is not currently on the roster Or they might just roll with 8. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 31 minutes ago, EC-Bills said: I dunno guys, this deal seems like Jason Peters 2.0... Peters wasn't a bubble player. They traded him because he was rightly disgruntled when they signed scrubs for more money than they were willing to pay him. That sickened me the way the Bill's with Marv Levy as GM handled that. I liked Teller, but he wasn't a stand out player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Instead of cutting this kid they got a 5th round draft pick from trading him. Seems like a pretty good move to me, not sure what’s so complicated about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Great trade. Getting a 5&6 this year for a guy getting cut is a nice situation for us. Bates is a way better player. Hopefully it works out for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 58 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: How do you know he was going to be cut? 52 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: If they got better compensation for another bubble lineman would they have taken that deal and kept Teller? Because they traded him! I highly doubt a week before the start of the regular season you'd trade any play who you feel is certain to make your roster unless it significantly strengths you team right now. Would they trade McCoy and Zay for Clowney, likely yes because that markedly improves the team. But if they were offered a 4th and 6th instead of 5th and 6th for lets say Bates who is likely one of the last guys to make the roster, doubt they'd make that trade for just slightly better value. On the other hand if Cleveland offered the 4th and 6th for a different player they also likely were cutting, then likely Teller is still on the roster and the other guys gone instead. The key is you're choosing between two players that are being cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Because they traded him! I highly doubt a week before the start of the regular season you'd trade any play who you feel is certain to make your roster unless it significantly strengths you team right now. Would they trade McCoy and Zay for Clowney, likely yes because that markedly improves the team. But if they were offered a 4th and 6th instead of 5th and 6th for lets say Bates who is likely one of the last guys to make the roster, doubt they'd make that trade for just slightly better value. On the other hand if Cleveland offered the 4th and 6th for a different player they also likely were cutting, then likely Teller is still on the roster and the other guys gone instead. The key is you're choosing between two players that are being cut. Or Teller still gets cut. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Or Teller still gets cut. Yes I meat he's on the roster for tonights game, but would still have been cut Saturday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 23 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Because they traded him! I highly doubt a week before the start of the regular season you'd trade any play who you feel is certain to make your roster unless it significantly strengths you team right now. Would they trade McCoy and Zay for Clowney, likely yes because that markedly improves the team. But if they were offered a 4th and 6th instead of 5th and 6th for lets say Bates who is likely one of the last guys to make the roster, doubt they'd make that trade for just slightly better value. On the other hand if Cleveland offered the 4th and 6th for a different player they also likely were cutting, then likely Teller is still on the roster and the other guys gone instead. The key is you're choosing between two players that are being cut. I’m trying to spin my way out of a lost argument with the you can’t prove something that hasn’t happened trick. Cut me some damn slack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) I never hated him like some posters do. I thought he had real potential. Well, the coaches see him more than any of us, so I'll trust their judgement. As far as the trade goes, it was good, but nothing special. We got the pick back that we used on him and swapped a 6th and 7th. Good, but not as outrageous as some seem to think. I still think Cleveland could get the best of this deal in time, but only time will tell with Teller. Edited August 30, 2019 by GreggTX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 A 5th & 6th for a borderline OL guy who could easily been cut. Brilliant McB..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Chances are we never see players in return for those picks, but Beane uses them to move up in the middle rounds. He's very good at that. He may be more important than McDermott. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Beane gave an interview during the 3rd quarter his comments were interesting: 1. a few teams have been calling about Bills o line, who is available etc 2. Beane said teller took the news well 3. Beane almost said that Teller would be cut anyhow. before backtracking and saying he'd be a 53 man roster consideration 4. Beane made it very clear that Teller was "not progressing" as quickly as expected when OTAs and as the offseason has played out 5. Beane said the mix of "vets" (namely Morse. Feliciano. and Nsheke on o line) and younger players is what they're trying to instill to help the younger players progress and learn (sounded like a kick in the pants to young guys on how to grow into an NFL player) 6. Beane also said that Tyler Kroft is progressing very well, expects him to be on 53 man roster without an injury designation...and back playing in the 1st half of season) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: Beane gave an interview during the 3rd quarter his comments were interesting: 1. a few teams have been calling about Bills o line, who is available etc 2. Beane said teller took the news well 3. Beane almost said that Teller would be cut anyhow. before backtracking and saying he'd be a 53 man roster consideration 4. Beane made it very clear that Teller was "not progressing" as quickly as expected when OTAs and as the offseason has played out 5. Beane said the mix of "vets" (namely Morse. Feliciano. and Nsheke on o line) and younger players is what they're trying to instill to help the younger players progress and learn (sounded like a kick in the pants to young guys on how to grow into an NFL player) 6. Beane also said that Tyler Kroft is progressing very well, expects him to be on 53 man roster without an injury designation...and back playing in the 1st half of season) I actually thought his most informative comment was when he noted that they want OLinemen who can play multiple spots on the line. Teller didn't have positional flexibility. Edited August 30, 2019 by NickelCity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 45 minutes ago, Doc said: Or Teller still gets cut. Exactly...It was going to happen...With Ford starting at RG, Long and Feliciano both being swing OG/C's, there's just no room...It was really that simple... Not that anyone asked, but I really like the move...It's honestly something for nothing...Not that Teller is nothing...Not at all...But he was getting squeezed out by the numbers regardless...Getting a 5th and 6th for a guy who was gone anyway is good Roster Management IMHO...? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 7 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Why not just hold onto him? Because we got two fifth round picks for a guy who was likely going to be cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Good move by McBeane to get something for nothing. We'll see if Teller amounts to anything, but they must not have liked him too much to basically make an even trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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