HappyDays Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 30 minutes ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: I think the thing is you never know what can happen in an NFL season, especially with an unproven QB. I love Allen but he is unproven. If the Bills did end up being 6-10 and Clowney walks, it's Ryan O'Reilly level bad. You don't win championships playing scared. You shoot your shot when it's your time. If Allen turns out to be bad we'll have a lot more to worry about than a wasted 2nd round pick. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyDavisEyes Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Didn't watch the Super Bowl huh? And none of the previous 99 seasons of NFL football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 31 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: B/C he's a defensive player and those guys don't change the outcomes of games. This is completely and utterly false. How can anybody watch football and say this? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from_dunkirk Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, njbuff said: That stupid argument went out the window years ago. WNY's money is just as green as everyone's else's and it's a good place to live. Well, except with Antonio Brown. And the fact NY has a high income tax rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BillsVet said: Keeping a defense together for years is not possible. Look at the Seahawks and on how long their group was intact. People want more money, guys get hurt, etc. I doubt Buffalo will trade for him, but investing more resources into the defense is absurd. They already have 3 first round picks, multiple higher dollar UFAs there, and now people want Clowney? It's the fantasy football mindset which has crept into fans far too much. I'd rather see Buffalo continue putting players around Allen and develop him. That is the more sound method of building a sustainable winning team, not more dollars and picks into building McCoach's defense. No, for me it has nothing to do with fantasy crap. I believe that pressure on a QB wins football games. Lots of football games. Edited August 25, 2019 by Binghamton Beast 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 You have a 200 million dollar cap next year, and a Qb still 3 years away from his payday. Youre going to need to pay someone. Id love a 6"5 255 pound defensive end who played 83% of his teams defensive stats on my team. I am all for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: This is completely and utterly false. How can anybody watch football and say this? They’d have to be really really REALLY stupid.... that’s how Edited August 25, 2019 by Stank_Nasty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: You don't win championships playing scared. You shoot your shot when it's your time. If Allen turns out to be bad we'll have a lot more to worry about than a wasted 2nd round pick. they are trying to take as much off allen's plate as they can. seattle had a defense that was allowing like 14-15 points per game. Wilson hardly had to do anything to win games. Allen could be managing a nice run game and working into picking apart defenses like Wilson has. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: Brandon Beane is to busy for such nonsense...probably out to lunch er something Napping with Buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, from_dunkirk said: Well, except with Antonio Brown. And the fact NY has a high income tax rate. depends where his place of residence is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: Napping with Buddy He's in the passenger seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Lurker said: Maybe they're trading their whole roster for him... Not enough. Throw in a conditional 7th in 2025, and they'll consider it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, BillsVet said: investing more resources into the defense is absurd Strengthening your biggest strength is actually the best way to win in football. And it's not like there's an elite offensive player up for a trade right now. Come on guys, we're talking about trading maybe a 2nd round pick and Shaq Lawson. A game changing pass rusher isn't worth that?? I think anyone who isn't begging for this trade to happen is nuts. Edited August 25, 2019 by HappyDays 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 20 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: A beer from me HG not because of doing it as you say, but that I agree with you on some peoples feelings around here. i honestly don’t want to overpay for this guy. I don't either, and that is what would happen. Throwing money at a problem, alone, does not solve the problem. Frazier and McD would need to be more aggressive in their defensive scheme in order to get the most out of Clowney. I'm not saying to blitz all the time, but at least disguise blitzes, stunt, throw in different looks, etc. Don't just play a vanilla front four look and expect that to intimidate the opposing offense. A lot of people dug into me in the Clowney is trending... thread. That's fine and what makes this board entertaining. It really is interesting getting many different view points. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from_dunkirk Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Just now, aristocrat said: depends where his place of residence is. I thought it went by where the game is played? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, aristocrat said: they are trying to take as much off allen's plate as they can. seattle had a defense that was allowing like 14-15 points per game. Wilson hardly had to do anything to win games. Allen could be managing a nice run game and working into picking apart defenses like Wilson has. And Big Ben before Russell. Same concept. Ben didn’t become a real gun slinging threat until his Super Bowl titles were long passed.... those first 4 or 5 years were run the ball, play great defense and let Ben make a handful of big time plays throughout the game. Most of them happened in crunch time because his team kept him in the game Edited August 25, 2019 by Stank_Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 GET ER DONE 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I have not watched that many Texans games... with Jerry Hughes at RDE, can Clowney play LDE? Only asking cause I know Watt is their LDE, and I know Shaq looks a whole lot better at RDE than he does at LDE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 There have been rumors about this for months. What makes this time different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Just now, MJS said: There have been rumors about this for months. What makes this time different? It’s new.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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