stony Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Chad Kelly's history suggests he has a problem "playing nice with others." He's been kicked off a team at every level for doing something stupid. Evidently enjoys pissing on his own cleats more than the average joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 hours ago, zow2 said: I’m in the camp that Chad is the best QB on that team now. If the Colts start out 1-4 or even 2-3 and not showing signs of having much of a passing game, Reich will put him in there. This all depends on Kelly staying squeaky clean off the field. The best QB on the Colts now is Jacoby Brisett. He didn't play yesterday because Reich now has to decide if Kelly, who looked pretty good, is good enough -- and reliable enough -- to be his backup. At some point in the future that may change but don't count on it. The Indy announcing crew for yesterday's game seemed very skeptical about Kelly making the team as they didn't know early in the game about Luck's announcement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, 87168 said: well, this screams of "I don't have many friends that don't look like me" "Tyreek Hill have black privilege?" - what does that even mean? I think we all know where the NFL stands when to comes to abuse, as well as its fans. I mean do people even think before they type? the NFL knows that racist Americans will not tolerate a black man calling them out on their racism and systemic oppression. they're ok with spousal abuse, animal abuse, child abuse, sexual assault, drug use, and much more....but don't dare call out racism. they're willing to boycott the entire league over that. burn jerseys and other paraphernalia. Kaep has no criminal record. Tyreek Hill didn't go against the system, nor did Vick. They didn't talk about systemic and racial oppression, which is something this country and its citizens have had a real hard time understanding. you talk about "If Kaepernick was a high end starter in this league he would still be playing" - give me a break. that's the same tired excuse used to deflect from the main issue. check his resume and his stats. marginal QBs don't take their team to the SB in their rookie year, or break records. As a minority I don't waste much time trying to explain racism to those who aren't willing to just quiet their mouths and listen. if you've never experienced it, you'll never understand its nuances. Hill's jersey wasn't burned. Big Ben's jersey wasn't burned. Josh Brown's jersey wasn't burned. Teams weren't boycotted. Threats weren't made. Nope. That's reserved for the man who called out systemic racism and oppression. "Ehh...white privilege? I dont think so. This seems to be any minoritiy reporters goto button to explain things." - and it seems to be most white americans go to button to deny its existence. White Privilege is being able to walk into a black church, kill 9 parishioners, get peacefully apprehended by the police....and taken to get Burger King, after killing NINE people. Actually i grew up on the East Side of Buffalo in a nearly all black neighborhood. And yeah it was rough at times being one of 3 or 4 white kids there. Had tons of black friends. Worked at places where i was the only white person for many years. They all loved me...to the point they used to beg me to just join in using the N word with them while talking amongst each other...probably heard that word a hundred times a day for many years. Never went there, i had boundaries i wouldnt cross no matter how good of a friend i was with them. Pretty much the furthest thing from a racist you could imagine because otherwise I'd have been dead a long time ago. Still feel more comfortable hanging out with black people than with white people to this day. Nice try tho. The Black Privilege comment was me being facetious. Edited August 25, 2019 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, KennyDavisEyes said: This just simply is not true. EJ started 16 games in BUF, Peterman started 4. EJ was on Buffalo’s roster for 3 seasons, Peterman 1 and some change. On his worse day, EJ was lights out better than Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyDavisEyes Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, SoTier said: On his worse day, EJ was lights out better than Peterman. Which is exactly why he was given 4X the amount of chances than Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Welp... In before the lock. As I wanted to post last night but didn't get a chance too...Cland has been mentioned by a few others...Chad Kelly is a case of NAME privilege and not white privilege. The two people responsible for him even being in the league are two former quarterbacks who love Jim Kelly. It's really that simple. Whit privilege is a real thing...in the NFL and the real world...but this ain't it. And that comes from a black man who has experienced plenty of racism in my life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Kelly may have just "stolen" something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Im a big Chad Kelly fan and a fan of people who finally get it right. With that said if he blows this opportunity with anymore off the field shenanigans, I'm done with him as would the entire NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 26 minutes ago, SoTier said: On his worse day, EJ was lights out better than Peterman. The lights were generally out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 56 minutes ago, SoTier said: "White privilege" isn't that NFL teams necessarily favor specific white players over specific black players. It's that there seems to be a tendency for white QBs to get more opportunities than black QBs. Of the 32 NFL teams, only 8 teams -- 25% -- have black starting QBs: Brisett, Jackson, Mahomes, Watson in the AFC and Newton, Prescott, Wilson, and Winston in the NFC. Before Luck's retirement, there were only 7 black starters in the NFL, and if Haskins beats out Keenum in Washington that will be 9 starters ... in a league where 70 or 75% of the players are black. The source of this discrepancy is probably not the NFL but rather at the college and high school levels. Peterman "out played TT" because he played against scrubs in 2017. After his debacle against the Chargers, the Bills should have been looking for a replacement then. McDermott was set on Peterman before the first preseason game IMO, and conveniently, McCarron got hurt in the first game. IIRC, Peterman never played against starters in the 2018 preseason, just as he hasn't played against first team Ds this preseason with Oakland. It's easy to look good against 3rd and 4th stringers in basic defenses; there a camp phenoms around the league every preseason who do that. Would even other white QBs get as many chances as Peterman has when his name has almost become synonymous "worst QB ever" in just a handful of games? I don't know. Maybe it's "nice guy" privilege. I recall a preseason game where TT look bad and was hurt early and Peterman came is and played well against the starters. I believe it was against the Ravens. I guess when TT was benched with the Browns that was white privilege too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 5 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I was talking in general. Does race get brought up too much? Absolutely. Kelly is getting his 43 chance because of his uncle, not his race. So I agree there. but there is something disingenuous about a white person talking about race card and stuff. You (in general) aren’t a minority, you have no idea how it feels to be in their shoes. Growing up as a black kid in Southside Chicago is a different world than being a white kid from Amherst. I get that but it sucks that a lot of guys don’t even get a 2nd chance at the nfl. Also, how does a normal person get treated when they threaten to shoot up a bar with an AK 47? This ^^^ All good points, “disingenuous” is a very kind way of putting it. Well stated imo. But his race isn’t hurting either, there is a lot of white privilege in our country that white citizens don’t recognize. As you mentioned in the AK 47 statement. Justice is certainly not evenly distributed. Again well stated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: 5). Love old white guys talking about how played out the race card is. The thing is, the white guys will be the first to realize it, because white guys are the ones that the card is being played to. There are plenty of racial injustices, but crying wolf over a situation like this only weakens future claims. Edited August 25, 2019 by OJ Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 11 hours ago, McBean said: I hope you’re right because I love the guy. I’m an Ole Miss fan and watched every snap of his in college. If it wasn’t for his injuries his senior year, he was a first rounder. I agree, he was fantastic his junior year. Then lost a lot weapons plus the injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 23 hours ago, McBean said: Kelly is a stud. Problem is, he won’t stay out of trouble. He’ll screw it up He's not a stud. He's a punk. He has no place in the NFL and now he can prove it once and for all. Just a rich, spoiled punk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 12 hours ago, artmalibu said: CK was not willing to bet on himself. He wanted franchise starting contract and many did not believe he is one. Including many black players like Shady. The Bills gave Peterman 2 starts and benched him after both. Not including the ones he got due to injury. I believe he was benched before completing one of those starts. When he got the start against the Chargers it was more of a TT benching than a peterman starting deal. TT averaged 185 yards of passing per game that season. How may starts did the Bills give EJ? EJ got chances with 3 NFL teams and Peterman is only on his second..... And parlayed his chances into becoming the first NFL QB to lose a game in 3 countries! I don’t think EJ deserves a lot of tears over his spilt milk anyway, imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, KennyDavisEyes said: Kap is a fraud. He took the money in a settlement instead of taking the case against the NFL to court and exposing their “systemic and racial oppression.” Then he and Nike schemed up that nice Betsy Ross shoe controversy to make money off ppl who think he is some kind of civil rights leader. Ha! Guy only cares about money and attention. Sounds like you've never spent your own $$$ to pursue a matter in the legal system. Do it once, and you won't criticize anybody else for taking a settlement rather than watching your money disappear as billable hours mount up long before you ever see a courtroom -- if you ever do. 14 hours ago, OJ Tom said: The thing is, the white guys will be the first to realize it, because white guys are the ones that the card is being played to. There are plenty of racial injustices, but crying wolf over a situation like this only weakens future claims. "De-nial" ain't just a river in Egypt. The white guys who are always whining about the race card refuse to acknowledge that racism actually exists. They give lip service to the existence of "racial injustice" but they don't really believe it. Edited August 26, 2019 by SoTier 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 21 minutes ago, SoTier said: Sounds like you've never spent your own $$$ to pursue a matter in the legal system. Do it once, and you won't criticize anybody else for taking a settlement rather than watching your money disappear as billable hours mount up long before you ever see a courtroom -- if you ever do. "De-nial" ain't just a river in Egypt. The white guys who are always whining about the race card refuse to acknowledge that racism actually exists. They give lip service to the existence of "racial injustice" but they don't really believe it. Yawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 On 8/25/2019 at 12:35 AM, matter2003 said: Ehh...white privilege? I dont think so. This seems to be any minoritiy reporters goto button to explain things. Does Tyreek Hill have black privilege? He is still playing when almost universally its been stated the NFL should suspend him. He doesn't seem to bring that up conveniently...also conveniently left out how Michael Vick returned to the NFL after his jail time... There are some things that are viewed as bad but people get over them and then there are social issues that people are so divided over that they will never get over like what Kaepernick is dealing with. If Kaepernick was a high end starter in this league he would still be playing...teams would not like it but his talent would outweigh the backlash from fans, distractions and media circus. But he isn't. He is a marginal starter or very good backup amd no team is willing to deal with that level of adversity for a backup player. It just isnt happening in any league not just the NFL. So sick of the “white privilege” bs. Give me a break- it is 2019. I can give a ton of examples but it just isn’t worth it. If we all just focused on being Americans, good citizens, and contributing to society we would have a little more harmony and a lot less crap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyDavisEyes Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 45 minutes ago, SoTier said: Sounds like you've never spent your own $$$ to pursue a matter in the legal system. Do it once, and you won't criticize anybody else for taking a settlement rather than watching your money disappear as billable hours mount up long before you ever see a courtroom -- if you ever do. Like I said - he only cares about money and attention. He’s no hero - he’s an ignorant fraud. Guy props up and wears Fidel Castro & Che Guevara gear but can’t stand for the National Anthem. It makes no sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Bill Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 On 8/25/2019 at 11:58 AM, C.Biscuit97 said: In a league that gives women beaters second chances, it’s pretty nuts that CK isn’t on a team. If you are being honest, he is one of the best 40 qbs on the planet. I do know it has more to do with other things than his color however. as for EJ, he was right about Peterman thing. Peterman was given more of a chance here than EJ. That was two different coaching staffs though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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