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After I read  Cossell & others said he was struggling in camp makes perfect sense.

 

Who voted on this, what exactly or who is the ESPN NFL Nation?

 

And Milano the breakout player?  He already broke out (figuratively with his leg) last year?

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I have no doubt as to Oliver’s future success, but to anoint him as camp’s MVP? A stretch, imho. 

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9 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

After I read  Cossell & others said he was struggling in camp makes perfect sense.

 

Who voted on this, what exactly or who is the ESPN NFL Nation?

 

And Milano the breakout player?  He already broke out (figuratively with his leg) last year?

 

Im thinking breakout at the next level...like Pro Bowl and not an alternate.  Starting to become recognized by more than just Bills fans.

8 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

I have no doubt as to Oliver’s future success, but to anoint him as camp’s MVP? A stretch, imho. 

 

Based on the reports, I would say the MVP was Beasley.

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Has to be John Brown or Cole Beasley. Those guys have been great in camp.

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33 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

After I read  Cossell & others said he was struggling in camp makes perfect sense.

 

Who voted on this, what exactly or who is the ESPN NFL Nation?

 

And Milano the breakout player?  He already broke out (figuratively with his leg) last year?

 

NFL Nation is the collection of Tweets / Bloggers 

 

do I need to add ...  for every team 

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ESPN also has Coach McDermott ranked highest on the list of "coaches on the hot seat" with a 73% chance of being fired after this season, so there's that. When anybody who has even remotely followed this team knows that unless we go 4-12, McDermott is going absolutely nowhere.


I've stopped putting basically any stock in anything that ESPN says about the Bills.

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5 minutes ago, CLTbills said:

ESPN also has Coach McDermott ranked highest on the list of "coaches on the hot seat" with a 73% chance of being fired after this season, so there's that. 

 

That's legit crazy. 

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5 minutes ago, CLTbills said:

ESPN also has Coach McDermott ranked highest on the list of "coaches on the hot seat" with a 73% chance of being fired after this season, so there's that. When anybody who has even remotely followed this team knows that unless we go 4-12, McDermott is going absolutely nowhere.


I've stopped putting basically any stock in anything that ESPN says about the Bills.

 

they are idiots 

 

McD would have to drive this team to less than 6 wins to get fired 

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Despite my many years of watching football I'll be the first to admit that I'm very average at evaluating players, but I wasn't particularly impressed with Ed Oliver in the two games so far. When I heard Cossell talk about him being engulfed I was a bit shocked as I've not really heard anyone else so far who saw what I saw. 

 

Hope I'm wrong and he takes Darnold's head off in week one

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19 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said:

Despite my many years of watching football I'll be the first to admit that I'm very average at evaluating players, but I wasn't particularly impressed with Ed Oliver in the two games so far. When I heard Cossell talk about him being engulfed I was a bit shocked as I've not really heard anyone else so far who saw what I saw. 

 

Hope I'm wrong and he takes Darnold's head off in week one

 

He was being double teamed and STILL got a hand up to block a pass!!! 

 

https://www.buffalobills.com/video/ed-oliver-deflects-third-down-throw

 

 

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33 minutes ago, CLTbills said:

ESPN also has Coach McDermott ranked highest on the list of "coaches on the hot seat" with a 73% chance of being fired after this season, so there's that. When anybody who has even remotely followed this team knows that unless we go 4-12, McDermott is going absolutely nowhere.


I've stopped putting basically any stock in anything that ESPN says about the Bills.

The article was specifically about "what if" every team went 4-12. Based on historical trends (year 3, worse record every year) he would be the most likely to get canned. It was a bizarre topic to be sure, but in no way was it a prediction that he was on the hot seat.

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2 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said:

I saw it. I just mean on the whole that was my observation. Like I said, I generally suck at evaluating players so I'm sure I'll be proven wrong

 

I hear you.  I didn't mean to sound to brusque.    

 

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6 minutes ago, 416BillsFan said:

The article was specifically about "what if" every team went 4-12. Based on historical trends (year 3, worse record every year) he would be the most likely to get canned. It was a bizarre topic to be sure, but in no way was it a prediction that he was on the hot seat.

Fine but About half the NFL coaches would go before McDermott if they went 4-12 so to put him at #1 is asinine, imo.  You think Jason Garret or Maronne would survive 4-12, aint not way.  The only coaches that would be safe would be yr one coaches and some of them would be vulnerable.  I think if the Bils went 4-12, depending how badly, McDermott would survive.

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6 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Fine but About half the NFL coaches would go before McDermott if they went 4-12 so to put him at #1 is asinine, imo.  You think Jason Garret or Maronne would survive 4-12, aint not way.  The only coaches that would be safe would be yr one coaches and some of them would be vulnerable.  I think if the Bils went 4-12, depending how badly, McDermott would survive.

I agree--I feel like Kim & Terry are so invested with this regime right now and in lockstep with it, that McD would really have to wilt in the spotlight before there would be any rumblings beneath his seat. 

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2 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Fine but About half the NFL coaches would go before McDermott if they went 4-12 so to put him at #1 is asinine, imo.  You think Jason Garret or Maronne would survive 4-12, aint not way.  The only coaches that would be safe would be yr one coaches and some of them would be vulnerable.  I think if the Bils went 4-12, depending how badly, McDermott would survive.

The only way he'd go is if he 'lost' the team, which I cant imagine happening given his style and his relationship with the players. So even if they were 4-11 heading into the final week, they'd still play hard and give it everything, in which case I'm sure Terry and Kim would put it down to stuff other than the head coach (coodinators, bad luck, Belichick voodoo or something).

 

The co-ordinators would probably go, but not McDermott. He'd need a really poor 2020 on top of that to get fired.

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2 hours ago, CLTbills said:

ESPN also has Coach McDermott ranked highest on the list of "coaches on the hot seat" with a 73% chance of being fired after this season, so there's that. When anybody who has even remotely followed this team knows that unless we go 4-12, McDermott is going absolutely nowhere.


I've stopped putting basically any stock in anything that ESPN says about the Bills.

 

Theyre clearly outsourcing their sports writing to India to milk what’s left of the brand 

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3 hours ago, CLTbills said:

ESPN also has Coach McDermott ranked highest on the list of "coaches on the hot seat" with a 73% chance of being fired after this season, so there's that. When anybody who has even remotely followed this team knows that unless we go 4-12, McDermott is going absolutely nowhere.


I've stopped putting basically any stock in anything that ESPN says about the Bills.

Well, that is exactly what the article was...the way you explained it is very misleading.

If the Bills go 4-12, there is a 73% chance McDermott gets fired...that is what the article said.

2 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Fine but About half the NFL coaches would go before McDermott if they went 4-12 so to put him at #1 is asinine, imo.  You think Jason Garret or Maronne would survive 4-12, aint not way.  The only coaches that would be safe would be yr one coaches and some of them would be vulnerable.  I think if the Bils went 4-12, depending how badly, McDermott would survive.

Marrone was second to McDermott. (Flores was third.)

 

And going 4-12 would be another step in the wrong direction for the Bills...after going 9-7 and then 6-10.

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4 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

This is not posible Cossell said Oliver is struggling.

 

 

...recount please.....hanging chads somewhere...Ed HAS to be SHORT votes......

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3 hours ago, CLTbills said:

ESPN also has Coach McDermott ranked highest on the list of "coaches on the hot seat" with a 73% chance of being fired after this season, so there's that. When anybody who has even remotely followed this team knows that unless we go 4-12, McDermott is going absolutely nowhere.


I've stopped putting basically any stock in anything that ESPN says about the Bills.

 

Incorrect. It was phrased as "If they have a disastrous season" which coach would most likely be fired. Still disagree, but it's a big difference.

 

Cossell said there were some plays where Oliver struggled in the Colts game. Said he played well overall and was going against a good player in Nelson. He also prefaced it by saying he knows Bills fans will overreact to even that. Thanks for proving him right guys!

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How newly formed relationships with teammates are helping Ed Oliver’s game flourish

 

“Jordan (Phillips) was the first guy’s house I went over to and he had the dog over there,” said Oliver. “He had the bite suit on and ever since then he’s been cool.

 

He likes dogs and I like dogs too, so that’s how we connect. He likes cars and I like cars. He’s got a Raptor and I’ve got a Ford 250. That’s another way that we’re similar.”

 

For Oliver it was new ground for him. The player with whom he was going to be in direct competition with for a starting job opened his home to him.

 

At training camp, Oliver made more of a point to open up with his teammates, which was further enhanced when former Bills DT Kyle Williams spent five days at training camp to mentor the rookie.

 

“I think those days with Kyle were really beneficial for a few reasons,” said defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier. “From a football standpoint the fundamentals and techniques were all important.

 

He has a ton of respect for Kyle. I remember when we came down to visit him pre-draft he was asking us questions about Kyle. He was familiar with him. So when Kyle arrived he was hanging on every word.

 

Everything that Kyle talked about, technique, preparation, it was all very beneficial. Hopefully we keep those two guys in touch.” 

 

Not surprisingly, as Oliver interacted more with his veteran teammates his personal game became more disruptive on the field.

 
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5 minutes ago, Chemical said:

 

Incorrect. It was phrased as "If they have a disastrous season" which coach would most likely be fired. Still disagree, but it's a big difference.

 

Cossell said there were some plays where Oliver struggled in the Colts game. Said he played well overall and was going against a good player in Nelson. He also prefaced it by saying he knows Bills fans will overreact to even that. Thanks for proving him right guys!

 

...conversely, which coaches would be INSULATED from the "hot seat" with a disastrous season?.....Worldwide Leader in Sports?......they need Rachel Madcow on Sportscenter.....

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