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I think I've been too harsh on how meaningless pre-season is...after all, Bucky Brooks has just declared Kyler Murray to be a generational QB based on pre-season games.

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Anything less than a Lombardi will be massively disappointing, imo.

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1 minute ago, jeremy2020 said:

I think I've been too harsh on how meaningless pre-season is...after all, Bucky Brooks has just declared Kyler Murray to be a generational QB based on pre-season games.

If he said that last week he's going to have to turn around and call him a terrible bust this week.

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1 hour ago, Success said:

Anything less than a Lombardi will be massively disappointing, imo.

all about the Destination for you.?
 prefer the  journey myself.  Sincerely trending up ,  works for me.

good fun

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20 hours ago, Logic said:

This year, like many years in the past two decades, there are a lot of Bills fans saying "Slow down, it's only preseason. It doesn't mean anything yet".

There's one key difference, though: Most years, we're saying it because the Bills look sloppy, disjointed, and ineffective. We're saying it to calm our anxieties and talk ourselves off the ledge, because the Bills look like a 5-win football team. This year? Well...this year we're saying it because the Bills look better than their opponents on both offense and defense. In the past, we've been trying to talk ourselves into more than 5 wins. "It's only preseason, they'll figure it out". This year, we're trying to talk ourselves out of a breakout, 10-win type season. "It's only preseason, it's all vanilla schemes, it doesn't matter".

See, here's the thing about that constantly uttered preseason phrase "it's only preseason, it doesn't matter": If we're talking about the SCOREBOARD, that's true. If we're talking about EXECUTION, it's a filthy lie. Sure, the opposing defense is running vanilla plays out of a limited playbook. All the more reason you want your offense to easily be able to march it down field against them. Sure, the opposing offense is trying not to tip their hand and is calling a limited script of plays. All the more reason you want your defense to easily shut them down and keep points off the board.

Score and schemes may not matter in preseason, but EXECUTION MATTERS. If your offensive linemen hold their blocks, it matters. If your receivers beat the men across from them, get open, and catch the ball, it matters. If your defense plays as a unit, shoots gaps, and keeps the score low, it matters. All things being equal, you have to look SOME SORT OF WAY in preseason, right? So wouldn't you rather that your team dominate the opponent? Put a different way: How would you all feel right now if Allen and the Bills stunk up the joint the past few weeks? Well, you'd still be saying "It's only preseason", but you'd be saying it for a very different reason. 

Look, we all know: it is a good idea to temper expectations in the preseason for the aforementioned reasons. Nevertheless: the Bills are executing their assignments more effectively than their opponents, their rookie quarterback looks vastly improved, and their defense looks absolutely stifling. When I flash back to all of the preseason ineffectiveness of recent years, I notice that it almost always carried over into the regular season. If you can't execute against vanilla schemes, you DAMN sure can't execute when the lights come on for real. So maybe, just maybe, the Bills preseason effectiveness this year will carry into the regular season. Maybe they'll keep out-executing opponents. The score and schemes may not matter, but execution matters.

Two more weeks and then we all get to see the Bills in real, important NFL regular season action. Until then, I'll keep trying to remind myself: "Slow down, it's only preseason".

 

Bruh.  Pump the brakes.  It's only preseason.

 

 

...and now I'll actually read your post for real 😅

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Just to back up my point that it's not a GIVEN that you dominate the opponent in preseason when they're resting key starters:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/08/17/jacoby-brissett-plays-well-in-andrew-lucks-absence/

"Brissett started today’s preseason game against the Browns and played well, capping his 8-for-10, 100-yard day with a touchdown pass to Eric Ebron in the corner of the end zone. Brissett also ran once for 11 yards."

Hmmm...He sure didn't look that way against the Bills! 

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15 hours ago, Cripple Creek said:

O, ODB...UBD

 

There is much to be taken from preseason games. I’m sure you realize this, but your hyperbolic take won’t allow you to admit it.  Perhaps after a good nights sleep you’ll feel differently.

Phew, thank god we have you here to keep us grounded Karlos. Phew.

What’s your point?

 

His point was that he could reference records, for the record, in the same sentence, and only say "record" once.   I mean, I'M impressed...

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5 minutes ago, BringBackFlutie said:

 

His point was that he could reference records, for the record, in the same sentence, and only say "record" once.   I mean, I'M impressed...

Was it some kind of record?

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4 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

No injuries is the biggest taken away from a preseason game.  So that’s a W. 

 

That is my primary goal in preseason! Four games is ridiculous and there’s a reason starters play so little. If they could only get 1/4 price for preseason tickets, would we still have four games? 

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Posted (edited)

I think the preseason can show the team isn't bad.. but I don't really think it's any indication of a team being good. Like you said.. the Bills are doing what any team worth it's salt SHOULD do. 

 

An especially bad preseason performance can tell some fans they're going nowhere that year.. thankfully the Bills aren't doing that right now

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Posted (edited)
14 hours ago, Logic said:


I have this recurring feeling that people didn't read the original post.

 

Is this thing on???

 

14 hours ago, ddaryl said:

I'm happy

 

I'm glad you just came out with it.  Sometimes I think people are only here because they like to hear themselves type! 

 

13 hours ago, Logic said:


And if the Lions play all their starters, and the Bills do too, and the Bills wind up playing better and continuing to look good overall....THEN are we allowed to be excited?
 

 

I'm glad you asked. The answer is no. Sorry. 

 

12 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Usually we have to make excuses on why we aren’t playing well in preseason...this is a nice change of pace.

 

Exactly. In the past, our starters routinely left the field with nothing to show for it.  We said "whatevs!  It's preseason!"  They did the same, come Week 1.

 

37 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

Was it some kind of record?

 

Yes. A record number of straws untouched in that reply.  🙄

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Definitely the most prepared I've seen them since Superbowl years..Now just gotta do it on the field.. Go Bills

13 hours ago, Logic said:

Just to back up my point that it's not a GIVEN that you dominate the opponent in preseason when they're resting key starters:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/08/17/jacoby-brissett-plays-well-in-andrew-lucks-absence/

"Brissett started today’s preseason game against the Browns and played well, capping his 8-for-10, 100-yard day with a touchdown pass to Eric Ebron in the corner of the end zone. Brissett also ran once for 11 yards."

Hmmm...He sure didn't look that way against the Bills! 

Not only that but I haven't seen us blitz 1 time. Everybody else is and raiders blitz 5 times on a row. I think that is a great sign for this season

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I know I’ve brought it up many times last season. It wasn’t well thought out responses that I was getting, it was “relax it’s only preseason” especially to the terrible Oline play that was on display early and often. There was no explanation as to why I should relax. Just some hope that they’d get it together in time. 

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24 minutes ago, benderbender said:

I know I’ve brought it up many times last season. It wasn’t well thought out responses that I was getting, it was “relax it’s only preseason” especially to the terrible Oline play that was on display early and often. There was no explanation as to why I should relax. Just some hope that they’d get it together in time. 


Exactly. To pretend that there's no correlation between preseason execution (or lack of it) and regular season execution is silly.

If you can't block to save your life in the preseason, why would you suddenly be able to do it in the regular season? Conversely, if you get open against quality cornerbacks in the preseason, why should I think that you won't be able to do it come regular season?

This whole "there is ZERO correlation!" idea has gotten out of hand.

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