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https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/ap-online/2019/08/12/study-asian-carp-could-find-plenty-of-food-in-lake-michigan

 

"We are on the verge of an unstoppable crisis for the Great Lakes region, and now is our best chance to stop these aggressive fish from crashing our economy and environment," said Molly Flanagan, vice president of the Alliance for the Great Lakes, an advocacy group that favors the Brandon Road Lock and Dam upgrade.

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8 minutes ago, T&C said:

https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/ap-online/2019/08/12/study-asian-carp-could-find-plenty-of-food-in-lake-michigan

 

"We are on the verge of an unstoppable crisis for the Great Lakes region, and now is our best chance to stop these aggressive fish from crashing our economy and environment," said Molly Flanagan, vice president of the Alliance for the Great Lakes, an advocacy group that favors the Brandon Road Lock and Dam upgrade.

 

Fer Chrissakes, dude ..................

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I have to go with Gug.. 

 

Please use the search feature 

 

(a former BBMB mod should know better ;)

 

In   3 ..... 2...... 1.... 

 


Edit -  my bad ...   sorry 

 

My guess is this will get merged. 

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2 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Fer Chrissakes, dude ..................

I knew you'd like it.

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Asian carp have been called the next great sport fish. I think that they will revitalize the industry on the Great Lakes.  The way they go after the baited hook is an amazing sight.

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1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

I have to go with Gug.. 

 

Please use the search feature 

 

(a former BBMB mod should know better ;)

 

In   3 ..... 2...... 1.... 

 

Wouldn't that be like every "Would ya?" being lumped into one thread. 

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2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

I have to go with Gug.. 

 

Please use the search feature 

 

(a former BBMB mod should know better ;)

 

In   3 ..... 2...... 1.... 

 

 

2 minutes ago, T&C said:

I knew you'd like it.

 

Oh, I have no problem with it being a dupe thread.  I think it deserves its own topic.

 

But now I need to mentally prepare myself to read Exilde's Magna Carta-sized response!!

 

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2 minutes ago, T&C said:

Wouldn't that be like every "Would ya?" being lumped into one thread. 

 

That is true. 

2 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

 

Oh, I have no problem with it being a dupe thread.  I think it deserves its own topic.

 

But now I need to mentally prepare myself to read Exilde's Magna Carta-sized response!!

 

:oops:   my bad.

 

Yeah we don't need another @ExiledInIllinois dissertation 

 

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Before DC Tom asks...

 

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I'm sure that Exiled will post but I watched a show on PBS on the Great Lakes the other day... like mentioned in the article, had NO idea there were that many Zebra mussels. 

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LoL... "Unstoppable crisis" ???

 

That's what they said in 2009.

 

Here is my dissertation @ShadyBillsFan

 

"Govt Boondoggle."

 

Done.

 

I am out.

 

Sorry for the long read @Gugny it's very tough out there.

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2 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

LoL... "Unstoppable crisis" ???

 

That's what they said in 2009.

 

Here is my dissertation @ShadyBillsFan

 

"Govt Boondoggle."

 

Done.

 

I am out.

 

Sorry for the long read @Gugny it's very tough out there.

#sportsmansdelight

#bitethathook

# @\GoBillsInDallas/

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24 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

#sportsmansdelight

#bitethathook

# @\GoBillsInDallas/

Swim MunthaFugger! Swim! You can do it... Just make like a salmon and jump that wave... Be free! You have a lost decade to make up for.  This is 2019, not 2009.  Swim like the Dickens!20190812_125959.thumb.jpg.3803ec233737cb3a75a152fc4b6b3c01.jpg

 

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9 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Swim MunthaFugger! Swim! You can do it... Just make like a salmon and jump that wave... Be free! You have a lost decade to make up for.  This is 2019, not 2009.  Swim like the Dickens!

 

🤣

 

 

Let’s focus in on dickens as the important word here, since there are lots of different expressions with it in, such as what the dickens, where the dickens, the dickens you are!, and the dickens you say!

 

It goes back a lot further than Charles Dickens, though it does seem to have been borrowed from the English surname, most likely sometime in the sixteenth century or before. (The surname itself probably derives from Dickin or Dickon, familiar diminutive forms of Dick - sound familiar, Exiled???)

 

It was — and still is, though people hardly know it any more — a euphemism for the Devil. It’s very much in the same style as deuce, as in old oaths like what the deuce! which contains another name for the Devil.

 

The first person known to use it was that great recorder of Elizabethan expressions, William Shakespeare, in The Merry Wives of Windsor: “FORD: Where had you this pretty weathercock? MRS PAGE: I cannot tell what the dickens his name is my husband had him of”.

 

That pun relied on the audience knowing that Dickens was a personal name and that what the dickens was a mild oath which called on the Devil.

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1 hour ago, T&C said:

https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/ap-online/2019/08/12/study-asian-carp-could-find-plenty-of-food-in-lake-michigan

 

"We are on the verge of an unstoppable crisis for the Great Lakes region, and now is our best chance to stop these aggressive fish from crashing our economy and environment," said Molly Flanagan, vice president of the Alliance for the Great Lakes, an advocacy group that favors the Brandon Road Lock and Dam upgrade.

They have been beating this drum for 20 years... 10 with the "chicken little" mentality.

 

They want one thing:  Constant Govt funding for pet enviro projects.  These pristine enviros are like communists... They need constant revolution.

 

It's easier to deal with @BringBackFergy @Cripple Creek @Gugny and ESPECIALLY 

@\GoBillsInDallas/ 

 

#RambunctiousGardenRules

3 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

 

Let’s focus in on dickens as the important word here, since there are lots of different expressions with it in, such as what the dickens, where the dickens, the dickens you are!, and the dickens you say!

 

It goes back a lot further than Charles Dickens, though it does seem to have been borrowed from the English surname, most likely sometime in the sixteenth century or before. (The surname itself probably derives from Dickin or Dickon, familiar diminutive forms of Dick - sound familiar, Exiled???)

 

It was — and still is, though people hardly know it any more — a euphemism for the Devil. It’s very much in the same style as deuce, as in old oaths like what the deuce! which contains another name for the Devil.

 

The first person known to use it was that great recorder of Elizabethan expressions, William Shakespeare, in The Merry Wives of Windsor: “FORD: Where had you this pretty weathercock? MRS PAGE: I cannot tell what the dickens his name is my husband had him of”.

 

That pun relied on the audience knowing that Dickens was a personal name and that what the dickens was a mild oath which called on the Devil.

Make like the Dickens and unlock our jobs:

 

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^^^LoL... Check out the crew on the dam working hard!  🤣^^^ @ :53... One of those guys is dead now (God Rest his soul).  

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6 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

 

Let’s focus in on dickens as the important word here, since there are lots of different expressions with it in, such as what the dickens, where the dickens, the dickens you are!, and the dickens you say!

 

It goes back a lot further than Charles Dickens, though it does seem to have been borrowed from the English surname, most likely sometime in the sixteenth century or before. (The surname itself probably derives from Dickin or Dickon, familiar diminutive forms of Dick - sound familiar, Exiled???)

 

It was — and still is, though people hardly know it any more — a euphemism for the Devil. It’s very much in the same style as deuce, as in old oaths like what the deuce! which contains another name for the Devil.

 

The first person known to use it was that great recorder of Elizabethan expressions, William Shakespeare, in The Merry Wives of Windsor: “FORD: Where had you this pretty weathercock? MRS PAGE: I cannot tell what the dickens his name is my husband had him of”.

 

That pun relied on the audience knowing that Dickens was a personal name and that what the dickens was a mild oath which called on the Devil.

Does this have anything to do with the topic at hand?

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39 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

Does this have anything to do with the topic at hand?

Yes.  The Asian carp are swimming like the Dickens.  They are going to invade the Lakes like the Dickens.

 

This is what we have been told the last 20 years.

 

But... If the government gives 1/2 billion to the right people, hopefully more $$$$$$$$, the CarpApocalypse will surely be stopped.  The EnviroEvangelists will make sure of this and Baby Jesus won't let the impending doom that has been predicted the last 20 years crash the Great Lakes and the people who enjoy them their way of life!

 

Only YOU and your tax dollars can help!

 

 

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Just now, ExiledInIllinois said:

Yes.  The Asian carp are swimming like the Dickens.  They are going to invade the Lakes like the Dickens.

 

This is what we have been told the last 20 years.

 

But... If the government gives 1/2 billion to the right people, hopefully more $$$$$$$$, the CarpApocalypse will surely be stopped.  The EnviroEvangelists will make sure of this and Baby Jesus won't let the impending doom that has been predicted the last 20 years crash the Great Lakes and it's people who enjoy them their way of life!

 

Only YOU and your tax dollars can help!

 

 

& you are who?  

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Just now, Cripple Creek said:

& you are who?  

 

He is......The Dickens.

 

Pay attention! 

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6 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Yes.  The Asian carp are swimming like the Dickens.  They are going to invade the Lakes like the Dickens.

 

This is what we have been told the last 20 years.

 

But... If the government gives 1/2 billion to the right people, hopefully more $$$$$$$$, the CarpApocalypse will surely be stopped.  The EnviroEvangelists will make sure of this and Baby Jesus won't let the impending doom that has been predicted the last 20 years crash the Great Lakes and the people who enjoy them their way of life!

 

Only YOU and your tax dollars can help!

 

 

How quickly can you install some pneumatic tubing?

 

https://www.vox.com/2019/8/12/20801930/fish-tube-meme-whooshh-wfst-dams-environmental-impact

4 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

He is......The *****.

 

Pay attention! 

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Why is it that we can only eat the ocean fish into extinction?  

 

These seem stupidly easy to catch and would make a great source of cat food at a minimum

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1 minute ago, That's No Moon said:

Why is it that we can only eat the ocean fish into extinction?  

 

These seem stupidly easy to catch and would make a great source of cat food at a minimum

Because picky N.American diets.  People hate change.

 

The first Europeans on the west coast refused to eat salmon because it looked yucky.  Go figure.

 

We are eating carp into extinction... Well the rest of the world is.  The rest of the world is a polluted cesspool too.  Yet, we are protecting our ecosystems here... So the Asian carp are taking off... Except we refuse to eat them because of the stigma they are rough.  Yet, some are coming around and figuring out what the rest of the world knows:

 

 

14 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

& you are who?  

Just your friendly non-Russian gov't agent:

 

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2 hours ago, That's No Moon said:

Why is it that we can only eat the ocean fish into extinction?  

 

These seem stupidly easy to catch and would make a great source of cat food at a minimum

Good call, because that was one of my first thoughts when I read the article.

 

Surprised no one has mentioned Nutria. They are all over the place down here now, found one under my truck and thought it was a beaver at first. The lake by the hospital is loaded with them.

 

 

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Lake Michigan is a "food desert."   There are billions of invasive quagga mussels on bottom of Lake.  Guess where they came from?  The Atlantic via the St.Lawrence.

 

Noboby is demanding they close the St.Lawrence off from the ocean... Closing Toronto off from waterborne transportation.

 

That OP article never addressed how the Asian carp will spawn in the Great Lakes.  They spawn in rivers. At temps above 70°F... Need ample big current with about 60 miles of river and adequate calm back water.  Nothing like that is found around the Great Lakes.

 

From way back in 2011:

 

https://madison.com/sports/recreation/outdoors/durkin-can-t-waste-time-carping-about-invasive-species/article_b08eb166-b3f4-11e0-be4a-001cc4c03286.html

 

Trust the Polish dude... We are going on 20 years now... 10 since the freak out in 2009

 

"...Among those dismissing the Asian carp threat is Professor Konrad Dabrowski, an aquaculturalist at Ohio State University’s School of Environment and Natural Resources. He thinks Asian carp can live, but not reproduce, in the Great Lakes and its tributaries. He says these waters don’t provide the necessary water flow and temperatures for these species to successfully spawn.

  Dabrowski notes that Europe has brought in and supplemented Asian carp more than 40 years and some never spawned. He doubts these carp could maintain or increase their numbers in the Great Lakes and therefore won’t overwhelm the lakes’ sport-fish populations. (Many sport fish aren’t natives, either, but they taste good and they’re fun to catch, so we’re on their side.)..."

 

AND, 8 years later... This is holding true, no wishing needed.  It's 2019, 8 years after this 2011 article.  Where are the carp... Still where they have always been.  Down South were they were released from.

 

"...And don’t you wish we could dismiss their solution as a “politically motivated stunt”? Wouldn’t it be great if we could also assure the public that the canal’s electrical fish barrier — recent news notwithstanding — truly is “a solution that has worked to date.”..."

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