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It's almost sad that some of last year's starting OL was getting rekt on 3rd team reps yesterday, although it confirms most of what we knew.

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Totally encouraged by the game last night. I can't recall being this positive following a preseason game. And this is with Allen look plus-minus.

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3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Amazing what desperately signing injured players can do. 

 

(Yes. Snark)

 

Again it's preseason but seeing them play yesterday and knowing they are being picked as a Super Bowl contender, I'm asking why?

 

"Them"?

 

Come on....Jacoby Brisett was their starter and left after one series.   

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6 hours ago, Boca BIlls said:

We shall see, preseason doesn't show you anything sadly as we all know. Preseason is all illusion for now.

(In my best Trump voice) "Fake football. That's all preseason is, is fake football. It's a bunch of cofevev."

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The Morse /Bodine situation scares me.  Feels like it could plague the team the entire season. An oft-injured high priced starter with a crappy backup.

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1 minute ago, FiftyPercent said:

The Morse /Bodine situation scares me.  Feels like it could plague the team the entire season. An oft-injured high priced starter with a crappy backup.

I'm not sure if you watched the game last night, it would seem you didn't, because Feliciano started at C with the first team.  It would seem he is Morse's backup, plus Long can play C.

 

Bodine will be playing elsewhere I suspect.

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Just now, FiftyPercent said:

The Morse /Bodine situation scares me.  Feels like it could plague the team the entire season. An oft-injured high priced starter with a crappy backup.


Only thing is, I don't expect Bodine to make the final 53. It's clear he's not the coaching staff's preferred option at backup center. The guy who DID start the game in place of Morse last night -- John Feliciano -- acquitted himself reasonably well. Between he and Spencer Long, I'm not as worried about backup center as I once was.

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6 hours ago, The Bills Blog said:

Looking at last year's roster after the cut to 53 is shocking:

 

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2018/09/01/buffalo-bills-roster-cuts-tracker-2018-53-man-roster-mccarron-trade/1177060002/

 

What a terrible roster this was. The Bills seem to have made significant improvements at every position except backup linebacker.

I am not sure I would even knock the backup linebackrs......Thompson and Joseph looked really good last night

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1 minute ago, oldmanfan said:

I'm not sure if you watched the game last night, it would seem you didn't, because Feliciano started at C with the first team.  It would seem he is Morse's backup, plus Long can play C.

 

Bodine will be playing elsewhere I suspect.

 

I did see that Feliciano started at C, but thought he was going to be a guard.  I'm a bit confused by the musical o-linemen.  If Ford ends up at RT, is Feliciano back to G?

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5 hours ago, Niagara Dude said:

QB league,  QB has to be the best player to win big

Good thing we have Josh

4 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

The Colts aren't a good team in the trenches but the Bills dominated them without their 2 best players Morse and Hughes. Good to see the depth there.

The colts have a VERY good offensive line....was the strength of their team last year

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2 minutes ago, FiftyPercent said:

 

I did see that Feliciano started at C, but thought he was going to be a guard.  I'm a bit confused by the musical o-linemen.  If Ford ends up at RT, is Feliciano back to G?

 

It looks like:

 

Dawkins - Spain - Morse - Ford - Nsehke

 

Backup G/C’s - Feliciano - Long

 

Ford kicks out to RT if either Dawkins or Nsehke go down, and Long or Feliciano replace him at RG. 

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8 minutes ago, FiftyPercent said:

 

I did see that Feliciano started at C, but thought he was going to be a guard.  I'm a bit confused by the musical o-linemen.  If Ford ends up at RT, is Feliciano back to G?

My guess is the starting front will look like this:

 

Dawkins/Spain/Morse or Feliciano/Ford/Nsekhi

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8 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

It looks like:

 

Dawkins - Spain - Morse - Ford - Nsehke

 

Backup G/C’s - Feliciano - Long

 

Ford kicks out to RT if either Dawkins or Nsehke go down, and Long or Feliciano replace him at RG. 


I'll be honest, I'm not so sure they cut Wyatt Teller. He played quite well against the Colts, and he acquitted himself decently last year when starting games that mattered, too. I don't think Beane/McDermott are the types to give up on 5th round picks so soon.

Would they dare keep THREE interior backup players?

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Just now, Logic said:


I'll be honest, I'm not so sure they cut Wyatt Teller. He played quite well against the Colts, and he acquitted himself decently last year when starting games that mattered, too. I don't think Beane/McDermott are the types to give up on 5th round picks so soon.

Would they dare keep THREE interior backup players?

 

Given the strategy that we should “plan” to have to play a few games without Morse over the course of the season (hopefully not, but hope is not a strategy), and the ability of Ford to kick out to RT (where they inevitably want him anyway), I don’t think it’s crazy.  

 

Definitely unorthodox though to have your 3 depth lineman all interior players with your depth T being your starting RG. 

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5 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Amazing what desperately signing injured players can do. 

 

(Yes. Snark)

 

Again it's preseason but seeing them play yesterday and knowing they are being picked as a Super Bowl contender, I'm asking why?

Because they have Andrew Luck, who wasn't playing...they had Phillip Walker playing.

 

Their QB1 was out, their RB1 was out (RB2 barely played), WR1, WR3 and WR4 didn't play (WR2 barely played), TE1 and TE2 didn't play...see where this is going?

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I was at the game and struggled to find a position group where we are weak. There is legitimate depth across the roster, which comes from being in the 3rd year of competent leadership.

 

- I am concerned at TE. Not sure all of these parts equal a whole ... Croft's timetable is a mystery, Smith is one-dimensional, Croom was marginal last year, and it is a lot to expect the rookies to be taking regular snaps. I like where the group is headed, just not sure where we are at right now.

 

- Hoping the punter battle will sort itself out.

 

Otherwise, I am loving this roster.

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Lets put it this way

 

We are going to be having some special teams players this year while they get their feet wet  that in other years would have been starting for us.

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4 hours ago, McBean said:

When you have Robert Foster and Eddie Yarborough playing in the third quarter, you know your football team is trending up.

I remember wondering why we had second stringers still playing in the 4th quarter.

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6 hours ago, The Bills Blog said:

Looking at last year's roster after the cut to 53 is shocking:

 

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2018/09/01/buffalo-bills-roster-cuts-tracker-2018-53-man-roster-mccarron-trade/1177060002/

 

What a terrible roster this was. The Bills seem to have made significant improvements at every position except backup linebacker.

 

 

Pathetic.  Man, besides the potential of Boettger who ended up on the practice squad for awhile last year, its ridiculous Dawkins and Teller are the only two quality lineman carrying over...and Teller doesn't even start?!  Again, as before, that is ridiculous.

 

AND we know Dawkins had a down year, which I think was rectified the moment he gave that interview after the season saying tha he has to be more committed and better, and it is showing.

 

I will stand by what I have said here and other places:  As bad as you think last years offense line was last year it was much, much worse.

 

"well, well, they made some plays and protected Allen well at times."

 

Too rarely did they make plays and even when Josh got passes over you could not only see the pocket collapsing, but collapsing in awkward fashion.

 

Tell me you don't watch other teams around the league, even teams worse than us, and notice the general form when a pocket collapses.  With the Bills it is normally a jail break collapse.

 

That's why it was so frustrating after the miami game last year to hear Chris and Mike on GR talk about Allen leaving he pocket too early...he left just as the s*** was hitting the fan, and had he stayed without any options that would have been it.  

 

That play was kept alive because of Allen, not in spite of him and he just got gassed in the Florida heat when he threw it.

 

They were simply terrible, and sometimes even terrible in games they won.  Thank you defense.

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25 minutes ago, Flip Johnson said:

I was at the game and struggled to find a position group where we are weak. There is legitimate depth across the roster, which comes from being in the 3rd year of competent leadership.

 

- I am concerned at TE. Not sure all of these parts equal a whole ... Croft's timetable is a mystery, Smith is one-dimensional, Croom was marginal last year, and it is a lot to expect the rookies to be taking regular snaps. I like where the group is headed, just not sure where we are at right now.

 

- Hoping the punter battle will sort itself out.

 

Otherwise, I am loving this roster.

 

Agree 100%

 

QB - Franchise & A strong backup

 

OL - 7 deep, all average to above average talents

 

RB - Deep enough that teams will be monitoring our cuts very closely

 

WR - No true #1, but there is potential and depth

 

TE - Tough to gauge given injuries and rookies

 

DL - Loaded.  Two elite players surrounded by talented rotation pieces 

 

LB - Two potentially elite players, Lorax and some promising young depth in Thompson/Joseph

 

CB - One elite corner surrounded by 4-5 talented corners. 

 

S - One of the best tandems in the NFL.  Decent depth with guys who know the system. 

 

K - Haushka

 

P - Hope for the best

 

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3 hours ago, klos63 said:

We looked more organized. Year 3 with this management is showing. We don't get to this point very often.

 

Lots of regimes here get the third year.

 

Finishing it is another story.

 

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29 minutes ago, JustWinPlease said:

Because they have Andrew Luck, who wasn't playing...they had Phillip Walker playing.

 

Their QB1 was out, their RB1 was out (RB2 barely played), WR1, WR3 and WR4 didn't play (WR2 barely played), TE1 and TE2 didn't play...see where this is going?

That was a given. To me, it was their D that looked like an old blanket out there. Holes were found every where..

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29 minutes ago, JustWinPlease said:

Because they have Andrew Luck, who wasn't playing...they had Phillip Walker playing.

 

Their QB1 was out, their RB1 was out (RB2 barely played), WR1, WR3 and WR4 didn't play (WR2 barely played), TE1 and TE2 didn't play...see where this is going?

 

So you're saying they have no depth?

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2 minutes ago, njbuff said:

 

Lots of regimes here get the third year.

 

Finishing it is another story.

 

🙄

Usually in the 3rd year, they're just waiting to get fired. This team seems to be moving in the right direction.

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2 hours ago, FiftyPercent said:

 

I did see that Feliciano started at C, but thought he was going to be a guard.  I'm a bit confused by the musical o-linemen.  If Ford ends up at RT, is Feliciano back to G?

Position flexibility is a priority for Sean McDermott.  It's quite possible that Feliciano will be a starter at guard, but if Morse goes out, he could move to center.  Right now, it's starting to look more like it will be Ford and Spain at guard and Nsekhe at right tackle, but having pieces you can move around and still be effective gives a team a great advantage when it comes to injuries.  One of the reasons Bodine may not be long for this roster is that while he's a sub par center, he's worse at guard.

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