PromoTheRobot Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 Charles Clay and AJ McCarron alone are $6.5MM. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 Funny how the McBean haters have disappeared from this board? Two years ago people where apoplectic on here regarding “ The process”, looks like they might be onto something both business- wise and talent evaluation- wise. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 That's good. Looks like the lack of dead cap isn't helping the Bucs at all. They still sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 13 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: Funny how the McBean haters have disappeared from this board? Two years ago people where apoplectic on here regarding “ The process”, looks like they might be onto something both business- wise and talent evaluation- wise. "They created the unnecessary dead cap space" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Magox said: "They created the unnecessary dead cap space" I don’t recall people saying it was unnecessary, but it is true that their moves are what contributed to the dead cap problem. Regardless, creating cap space isn’t an accomplishment. Any idiot GM can cut players and make cap room. Where this staff is going to get judged the most is in Allen’s development and the number of games we win. Edited July 29, 2019 by Bangarang 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 21 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: Funny how the McBean haters have disappeared from this board? Two years ago people where apoplectic on here regarding “ The process”, looks like they might be onto something both business- wise and talent evaluation- wise. Remember the McBean haters after the first two games of last season(Ravens & Chargers)? How times have changed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 15 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: It's not really complicated. They got rid of guys they had no attachment to creating a ***** ton of dead cap space. They now have a roster of guys they want and aren't cutting players who were paid from the previous regime, hence not a lot of dead cap space.... whether that roster is actually good or not is yet to be determined. I still don't think this is the full roster they want. I think this years signings were about creating depth which is why the number of fa signed was so high. The cupboard was incredibly bare last year (yes of there own doing). IIRC a lot of the contracts were prove it deals so I expect some more churning next year as well. I also think after this year they will push all their chips in and I expect at least 1 big fa splash. This isn't quite a put up or shut up year but there needs to be improvement in their record and offensive prowess. This team should be competitive but I don't think it is a contending team yet. Unless Allen pulls a Mahomes that is... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 25 minutes ago, Magox said: "They created the unnecessary dead cap space" With a plan to refill the cap space in the years ahead it with resigning their own and finding value FA's who want to be here. Creating the dead cap situation doesn't take away from the fact that the mis-management of the cap was done prior to Beane being here. The fact that they got it cleaned up nice and quickly deserves praise. The fact they got it cleaned up quickly while still showing some forward progression last year is incredible 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 25 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: It's not really complicated. They got rid of guys they had no attachment to creating a ***** ton of dead cap space. They now have a roster of guys they want and aren't cutting players who were paid from the previous regime, hence not a lot of dead cap space.... whether that roster is actually good or not is yet to be determined. ...who had accomplished nothing in Buffalo. Key point left out of your "not really complicated" explanation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 30 minutes ago, Magox said: "They created the unnecessary dead cap space" I love reading that from time to time....pretty comical! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 51 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Charles Clay and AJ McCarron alone are $6.5MM. There are only two people on the current roster that I could see adding to this in any meaningful way, but they will still most likely be on the roster: 1) the Shady speculation (he'd cost about $2.4 mil in dead cap); and 2) if Kroft can't come back from the same foot he previously injured. Not sure how the dead cap would adjust for an injury settlement, but he has a $4.2 mil dead cap hit currently. No doubt, Beane has put them in a very good situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 52 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: Funny how the McBean haters have disappeared from this board? Two years ago people where apoplectic on here regarding “ The process”, looks like they might be onto something both business- wise and talent evaluation- wise. If the players he brought in dont pan out.....they will be back in like the wrath of god......:P 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 Well that is certainly taking your medicine in a giant GULP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 PLAYER (61) POS. BASE SALARY SIGNING BONUS ROSTER BONUS OPTION BONUS WORKOUT BONUS RESTRUC. BONUS MISC. DEAD CAP CAP HIT CAP % Marcell Dareus DT - $10,000,000 - $3,564,705 - - - - $13,564,705 7.19 Eric Wood C $4,800,000 $4,333,334 - - - $1,258,334 - - $10,391,668 5.50 Cordy Glenn LT - $9,600,000 - - - - - - $9,600,000 5.09 Kelvin Benjamin WR $8,459,000 - - - - - - - $8,459,000 4.48 Tyrod Taylor QB - $7,640,000 - - - - - - $7,640,000 4.05 Corey Coleman WR $2,955,922 - - - - - - - $2,955,922 1.57 Aaron Williams SS - $1,300,000 - $1,125,000 - - - - $2,425,000 1.28 A.J. McCarron QB - $2,000,000 - - $100,000 - - - $2,100,000 1.11 Vontae Davis CB $264,706 $1,500,000 $78,125 - $250,000 - - - $2,092,830 1.11 Andre Holmes WR $764,706 $550,000 $150,000 - $50,000 - - - $1,514,706 0.80 Reggie Ragland ILB - $1,224,135 - - - - - - $1,224,135 0.65 Richie Incognito G - $1,150,000 - - - - - - $1,150,000 0.61 Ramon Humber OLB $915,000 $60,000 - - $30,000 - - - $720,000 0.38 Marshall Newhouse RT $176,472 $500,000 - - - - - - $676,472 0.36 Jeremy Kerley WR $630,000 - - - $45,000 - - - $675,000 0.36 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 58 minutes ago, ddaryl said: With a plan to refill the cap space in the years ahead it with resigning their own and finding value FA's who want to be here. Creating the dead cap situation doesn't take away from the fact that the mis-management of the cap was done prior to Beane being here. The fact that they got it cleaned up nice and quickly deserves praise. The fact they got it cleaned up quickly while still showing some forward progression last year is incredible Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 21 minutes ago, ngbills said: PLAYER (61) POS. BASE SALARY SIGNING BONUS ROSTER BONUS OPTION BONUS WORKOUT BONUS RESTRUC. BONUS MISC. DEAD CAP CAP HIT CAP % Marcell Dareus DT - $10,000,000 - $3,564,705 - - - - $13,564,705 7.19 Eric Wood C $4,800,000 $4,333,334 - - - $1,258,334 - - $10,391,668 5.50 Cordy Glenn LT - $9,600,000 - - - - - - $9,600,000 5.09 Kelvin Benjamin WR $8,459,000 - - - - - - - $8,459,000 4.48 Tyrod Taylor QB - $7,640,000 - - - - - - $7,640,000 4.05 Corey Coleman WR $2,955,922 - - - - - - - $2,955,922 1.57 Aaron Williams SS - $1,300,000 - $1,125,000 - - - - $2,425,000 1.28 A.J. McCarron QB - $2,000,000 - - $100,000 - - - $2,100,000 1.11 Vontae Davis CB $264,706 $1,500,000 $78,125 - $250,000 - - - $2,092,830 1.11 Andre Holmes WR $764,706 $550,000 $150,000 - $50,000 - - - $1,514,706 0.80 Reggie Ragland ILB - $1,224,135 - - - - - - $1,224,135 0.65 Richie Incognito G - $1,150,000 - - - - - - $1,150,000 0.61 Ramon Humber OLB $915,000 $60,000 - - $30,000 - - - $720,000 0.38 Marshall Newhouse RT $176,472 $500,000 - - - - - - $676,472 0.36 Jeremy Kerley WR $630,000 - - - $45,000 - - - $675,000 0.36 Most of these guys are superstars and all pros now....we could use them all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: It's not really complicated. They got rid of guys they had no attachment to creating a ***** ton of dead cap space. They now have a roster of guys they want and aren't cutting players who were paid from the previous regime, hence not a lot of dead cap space.... whether that roster is actually good or not is yet to be determined. I gotta hand it to you, that wasn't a directly negative post! Congratulations, and THANK YOU for being non-negative! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Magox said: "They created the unnecessary dead cap space" Yeah, it really sucks having a healthy situation now with a team seemingly on the rise. I just don’t know what we should do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 50 minutes ago, ngbills said: PLAYER (61) POS. BASE SALARY SIGNING BONUS ROSTER BONUS OPTION BONUS WORKOUT BONUS RESTRUC. BONUS MISC. DEAD CAP CAP HIT CAP % Marcell Dareus DT - $10,000,000 - $3,564,705 - - - - $13,564,705 7.19 Eric Wood C $4,800,000 $4,333,334 - - - $1,258,334 - - $10,391,668 5.50 Cordy Glenn LT - $9,600,000 - - - - - - $9,600,000 5.09 Kelvin Benjamin WR $8,459,000 - - - - - - - $8,459,000 4.48 Tyrod Taylor QB - $7,640,000 - - - - - - $7,640,000 4.05 Corey Coleman WR $2,955,922 - - - - - - - $2,955,922 1.57 Aaron Williams SS - $1,300,000 - $1,125,000 - - - - $2,425,000 1.28 A.J. McCarron QB - $2,000,000 - - $100,000 - - - $2,100,000 1.11 Vontae Davis CB $264,706 $1,500,000 $78,125 - $250,000 - - - $2,092,830 1.11 Andre Holmes WR $764,706 $550,000 $150,000 - $50,000 - - - $1,514,706 0.80 Reggie Ragland ILB - $1,224,135 - - - - - - $1,224,135 0.65 Richie Incognito G - $1,150,000 - - - - - - $1,150,000 0.61 Ramon Humber OLB $915,000 $60,000 - - $30,000 - - - $720,000 0.38 Marshall Newhouse RT $176,472 $500,000 - - - - - - $676,472 0.36 Jeremy Kerley WR $630,000 - - - $45,000 - - - $675,000 0.36 Let's begin with the players who were forced to retire due to injuries/medical conditions (Eric Wood and Aaron Williams). How is Beane in any way "responsible" for creating their problems/conditions. And did he turn Incognito into a "psycho" too? Really! And what role did Beane play in forcing/cajoling Vontae Davis into retiring at half-time?? Does anyone out there really wish we could have Tyrod playing QB for this team instead of Josh Allen??? And then there is Marcel. Better to have a DL who is into drag racing and imbibing synthetic MJ and underperforming out there on the field??? Gimme a break.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said: Funny how the McBean haters have disappeared from this board? Two years ago people where apoplectic on here regarding “ The process”, looks like they might be onto something both business- wise and talent evaluation- wise. I'll try to pick up the slack. Bills just released Foggie. That's $2,666 more in Dead Money. Beane will have us in cap hell again in no time! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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